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gottago3,110 posts since 26 Aug 2004
London London
The most surprising thing about this thread is apparently how little some people are seasoning their food! The list of ingredients being mocked for being things we should have in our cupboards is a pretty a basic mix of herbs, spices and flavourings IMO...

Some of the reactions above sound like they're from people that don't really cook (hence the incredulity about being expected to have an 85p pot of Tesco ground turmeric at home), and as such aren't actually going to be cooking any of the recipes from the show anyway and are just itching for an argument!

I agree, I think anyone who would watch this show would likely watch other food shows and will have a decent cupboard full of these ingredients from trying other recipes in the past. Other than perhaps white wine vinegar I wouldn't say there's anything particularly fancy about the list.
Inspector Sands14,777 posts since 25 Aug 2004
The most surprising thing about this thread is apparently how little some people are seasoning their food! The list of ingredients being mocked for being things we should have in our cupboards is a pretty a basic mix of herbs, spices and flavourings IMO...

Some of the reactions above sound like they're from people that don't really cook (hence the incredulity about being expected to have an 85p pot of Tesco ground turmeric at home), and as such aren't actually going to be cooking any of the recipes from the show anyway and are just itching for an argument!

Yes, if you cook you would have a collection of store cupboard basics. Herbs and spices are things you always buy more than you need and keep the rest, they don't go off so it doesn't take long to get a collection. Paprika is an essential in our house, great on cauliflower or macaroni cheese. Cumin mainly gets used in scrambled eggs.


We've got a whole cupboard door full of little jars, and have everything on that list except the leaves
Custard56 (previously Jay Lee) 686 posts since 7 Apr 2015
London
Is Matt the permanent host for Saturday Kitchen Live now, or are they still rotating? I always thought that he was the perfect replacement for James Martin.


I think they're still rotating, but less so than before. Or at least that's the impression I get - Matt seems to take two or three weeks off every few months now.

I agree though - I think Matt has settled really well into the role.
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JCB2,165 posts since 21 Sep 2004
I think it's pretty condescending to assume working class people only eat frozen chunky chips and beans on toast. As if herbal spices are as alien to them as books. Rolling Eyes
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Whataday10,837 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
I think it's pretty condescending to assume working class people only eat frozen chunky chips and beans on toast. As if herbal spices are as alien to them as books. Rolling Eyes


Same. Luckily no one has aired such a view on this thread.

It is perfectly reasonable to take the view that someone with limited resources is not going to have an cupboard full of the items that have been suggested as essential.
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toby lerone 2016500 posts since 13 Jul 2016
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Is Matt the permanent host for Saturday Kitchen Live now, or are they still rotating? I always thought that he was the perfect replacement for James Martin.


I think they're still rotating, but less so than before. Or at least that's the impression I get - Matt seems to take tw or three weeks off every few months now.

I agree though - I think Matt has settled really well into the role.


He has indeed, I think they announced in 2018 he would be the regular presenter and would host 2-3 episodes per month but he seems to always be on now so probably is a regular presenter of it which is no bad thing
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JCB2,165 posts since 21 Sep 2004
I think it's pretty condescending to assume working class people only eat frozen chunky chips and beans on toast. As if herbal spices are as alien to them as books. Rolling Eyes


Same. Luckily no one has aired such a view on this thread.

It is perfectly reasonable to take the view that someone with limited resources is not going to have an cupboard full of the items that have been suggested as essential.


But you're making a really condescending assumption of what people have In their cupboards.
Whataday10,837 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
But you're making a really condescending assumption of what people have In their cupboards.


I'm not being condescending at all. I am absolutely not saying that it is better to have a cupboard full of these ingredients, nor does it make you a better person. Far from it. I'm being realistic in saying that tonight, someone with limited resources is unlikely to be preparing a recipe with seventeen separate ingredients.

And as much as it's great to assume we're all in this together and we all cook the same way, we do not. There is plenty of research to show more affluent socio-economic groups buy a wider variety of things like herbs and spices, and that less affluent groups have a more basic diet.
Charlie Wells3,898 posts since 26 Nov 2003 Moderator
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)
We were helpfully dictated a list of essential items we should definitely have in that cupboard:

1. Paprika
2. Chilli powder
3. Curry powder
4. Cumin
5. Dried bay leaves
6. Turmeric
7. White wine vinegar
8. Italian mixed herbs
9. Lemon juice
10. Mustard

To be fair a lot of these ingredients are listed in both a student cookbook and Tom Kerridge cook book (Loose weight for good). They are relatively basic ingredients which can help add flavour.

With regards to Jack is she's going to continue not being in the studio they could really do with trying to improve her web cam feed.
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Whataday10,837 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today


JCB2,165 posts since 21 Sep 2004
But you're making a really condescending assumption of what people have In their cupboards.


I'm not being condescending at all. I am absolutely not saying that it is better to have a cupboard full of these ingredients, nor does it make you a better person. Far from it. I'm being realistic in saying that tonight, someone with limited resources is unlikely to be preparing a recipe with seventeen separate ingredients.

And as much as it's great to assume we're all in this together and we all cook the same way, we do not. There is plenty of research to show more affluent socio-economic groups buy a wider variety of things like herbs and spices, and that less affluent groups have a more basic diet.


It was a pretty basic Lamb Broth, not a 5 course cuisine. What do you want them to do? Cheese On Toast? I grew up on a council estate and we were always living on the bread line but i don't recall my family ever being known locally as the islington mafia because my mum made a cracking seasoned soup! Rolling Eyes I must tell my minimum wage parents that having a collection of herbs & spices makes them Lord & Lady Grantham!
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