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DV
DVB Cornwall
It's not a question of the Heiniken Cup voting itself out of business. If it loses teams which is threatened, it's defacto voted out of business. You need two to tango. If this happens, a successor competition with media rights assigned by clubs with what is a lucrative proposal on the table has to be favourite. The attitude of the French sides being pivotal.
MI
Michael
Welsh, Scottish, Italian and Irish teams and federations will not accept a European Cup run by the English and French. Why should we? The English are only kicking off cos they haven't won it for a couple of years.

10 days later

BR
Brekkie
No surprise that the ERC have declared this deal "illegal" - interestingly at a press conference with members of the seven French clubs in this years Heineken Cup. The ERC have also awarded the 2014 final to France - so they're definitely doing their best to keep the French on board and leave the English as the outsiders.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/sep/25/bt-deal-heineken-cup-illegal
MI
Michael
Reports over the weekend indicate that the English could leave the ERC and set up a new trans-national cup competition....with the South Africans!
JO
Jon
Reports over the weekend indicate that the English could leave the ERC and set up a new trans-national cup competition....with the South Africans!

Crazy!
MI
Michael
Jon posted:
Reports over the weekend indicate that the English could leave the ERC and set up a new trans-national cup competition....with the South Africans!

Crazy!


Don't forget Sarries wanted to take some of their "home" games there this year but were refused; so there's some previous form.

It's not massively impossible (see also Super Rugby) to organise - a pain for away fans but is a flight to SA any worse than a flight to Romania or Italy?
RO
robertclark125
Having a trans national tournament with English and South African teams presents another problem, namely the worldwide tv rights to the games in South Africa are currently held by News Corp!
JO
Jon
Having a trans national tournament with English and South African teams presents another problem, namely the worldwide tv rights to the games in South Africa are currently held by News Corp!

I assume the BT deal wouldn't even cover it anyway, considering it specified 'future European competitions'.

What I'm not keen on is the idea of the random nature of the tournament.
RD
rdd Founding member
Its unlikely to happen. It'd be impossible for South Africa to remain in Super Rugby and the Rugby Championship if they did so. There aren't enough months in the year, and besides they've only just signed deals to remain in both. It would effectively mean South Africa having to switch to the Northern Hemisphere calendar (including joining the Six Nations) and really that's not going to happen.

This is just Premiership Rugby attempting to say to the Celtic unions and France that they have alternatives. But they don't really.
MI
Michael
Don't confuse the Super Rugby franchises with the club teams.

Franchise region teams (Super Rugby) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Rugby_franchise_areas#South_Africa

Domestic club sides (Currie Cup / Vodacom Cup) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currie_Cup#Teams

I'm assuming this rumour involves the Currie Cup teams, as the Aviva Teams would be replacing one set of franchises (IRFU, WRU and Italy) with another.
RO
robertclark125
Don't confuse the Super Rugby franchises with the club teams.

Franchise region teams (Super Rugby) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Rugby_franchise_areas#South_Africa

Domestic club sides (Currie Cup / Vodacom Cup) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currie_Cup#Teams

I'm assuming this rumour involves the Currie Cup teams, as the Aviva Teams would be replacing one set of franchises (IRFU, WRU and Italy) with another.


The Currie Cup is still covered under the SANZAR tv deal, which means Sky in the UK.
GE
Gareth E
Speculation that BT could release up to 12 Premiership matches to be shown on free-to-air television, possibly through ITV . . .

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/rugby/exclusive-itv-could-benefit-from-rugbys-bt-deal-8193505.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2209541/BT-offer-free-air-Premiership-games-new-152m-TV-deal.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Although we did see similar speculation after the Premier League deal, which was quickly rubbished.

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