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GA
Gary Founding member
Quote:
MikeG on 12:13 pm on Dec. 31, 2001
Must be Gary. BTW: on the subject of the BBC Bomb, did all the BBC's newsrooms in TV Centre have to be evacuated? I specifically mean the world newsroom because I thought BBC World coverage went out on News 24!


Yes they all were evacuated. It was announced at around 11.30pm to evacuate, so World and News 24 weren't joint at that time. Infact you saw in one of the reports Adrian, who was presenting on BBC World at that time, evacuating the newsroom!
NG
noggin Founding member
There is a permanent feed of News 24 (without clock, live dogs, News 24 dog or astons) to BBC Westminster, which is continuously recorded on a hard disc recorder there. This is in case it is not possible to get the News 24 PasB on tape to Millbank in time to resume broadcasting, though the plan is to take PasBs of the last News 24 and World bulletins.

On the subject of the bomb. The News 24 newsroom was evacuated first, as it is in the News centre. The World Newsroom has no exposed windows and is further back, and technically not quite in the News Centre, and was not evacuated as early. News 24 showed Hardtalk and then took World when News 24 were evacuated, as World were still broadcasting live News. Then the next hour both World and News 24 showed a recorded World bulletin, as the World newsroom was also evacuated, just before the bomb went off I think.

This was followed by a live bulletin from BBC Westminster. This showed the first pictures of the bomb going off. After this the World newsroom was given the all clear, and live broadcasting resumed from Television Centre. However the main news centre was still out of bounds, and News 24 stayed with World for quite a time - at least a day I think... The Sunday BBC One bulletins came from the Breakfast studio, as did the morning BBC One summaries.
MO
moss Founding member
I remember watching all that live, and being very impressed at the Westminster news coverage of the bomb itself. The actual shot of it going off was very good, and the interviews with the reporter. The end of the broadcast, when they showed the pictures again and superimposed the BBC News and copyright logo was excellent.

(Not that I don't see the wider, terrible picture of course - but I'm talking from a news and technical viewpoint.)
NG
noggin Founding member
Quote:
Gary on 12:27 pm on Dec. 31, 2001
Quote:
MikeG on 12:13 pm on Dec. 31, 2001
Must be Gary. BTW: on the subject of the BBC Bomb, did all the BBC's newsrooms in TV Centre have to be evacuated? I specifically mean the world newsroom because I thought BBC World coverage went out on News 24!


Yes they all were evacuated.  It was announced at around 11.30pm to evacuate, so World and News 24 weren't joint at that time.  Infact you saw in one of the reports Adrian, who was presenting on BBC World at that time, evacuating the newsroom!


Don't think they were all evacuated at the same time though.

I think 24 were evacuated first, then World a while later, as they were in a more protected bit of the building. The shot of Adrian unplugging and leaving was not broadcast live as far as I can remember - I think it was on a recording of studio out, and hence got into the packages. I recall watching that night and think that World came off air on News 24 (and World) with a normal sting.
GA
Gary Founding member
So when World came of air, what did they do? Did they go to a programme, e.g. Hardtalk, like News 24?
MD
mdta
Images from During the BBC Bomb

http://www.tvhome.f2s.com/upload/Studio%20Shot.jpg
BBC National News

http://www.tvhome.f2s.com/upload/Evacuation.jpg
Adrian Fleeing BBC World
MG
MikeG
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Why isn't the Braksing News aston where it normally is? And why is the DOG covered up in black?
MO
moss Founding member
Isn't that the old Breaking News aston, that was in use at that time?

(Edited by moss at 1:57 pm on Dec. 31, 2001)
AN
andyrew Founding member
I think World still use that 'breaking news' dingo. The 'live' is certainly still used in that position. The black above is not masking the dog, but is a background for the dog.
On BBC World the dog is provided by presentation, so the picture you have illustrated is clean out of the news studio, and my guess recorded off a dogless BBC 1.

World, unlike N24, does have the advantage of a presentation area far away from the news centre, so if anything happens in news then pres. can fill, and vice versa. In emergencies World Pres. also relied on someone from news running down with a DV tape in order to provide 'recorded' news. However, World Pres. have just installed a hard disk recorder that continuously records the World News studio output, and N24 studio overnight, so that the last news bulletin is available to play at a push of a button.

The broadcast quality PasB's are kept for good. By recording the studio clean of Astons etc, you are also archiving the cut stories too.
The recordings made for legal reasons are normally done on VHS, and ditched after 3 months.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Yes I remember, Susan Osman was at Westminster and Adrian kept going from the World studio overnight.

The Sunday was presented by Darren Jordon & Liz Pike, Maxine Mawhinney, Anita McNaught, Peter Coe, Chris Lowe. I don't know the Monday's ones as I went to Belgium that day!
NG
noggin Founding member
That Breaking News dog was the World one - which had a black backing to go behind the BBC World dog, World also have a News Update and LIVE bug in the same design, as well as a Live bug in the same place as News 24. News 24s Breaking News dog was identical, but without the black backing, but has been replaced by an animating top line on the aston - World may also have moved to this style - not sure.

Suspect the World dog was taken out, leaving the black bit of the dog with nothing to 'back', as World was being simulcast on News 24 from World presentation, so all of BBC World, including programmes, trailers, breakfillers (but no commercials) went out on News 24. The News 24 dog is added in the studio, and the switch to World was done after this, so no channel dogs were present on either World or News 24 for a while?
WI
william Founding member
Quote:
andyrew on 2:17 pm on Dec. 31, 2001

However, World Pres. have just installed a hard disk recorder that continuously records the World News studio output, and N24 studio overnight, so that the last news bulletin is available to play at a push of a button.

The broadcast quality PasB's are kept for good. By recording the studio clean of Astons etc, you are also archiving the cut stories too.
The recordings made for legal reasons are normally done on VHS, and ditched after 3 months.


This actually reminds me of something I've been meaning to ask about for ages - is there any windows software that people know of which lets you record video of a set file size in a continuous loop?

I assume that continous-loop VHS tapes aren't widely available and would probably only be of short duration, but presumably software for a PC that would do this is much easier to come by?

Anyone know of anything? Also interested in audio, as Cooledit doesn't do it (it has a Timed record function, but no continuous one).

William

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