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Blatant sexism! (November 2008)

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PT
Put The Telly On
That Daily Mail (your favourite paper Brekkie Wink ) are apparently today (not the story you dug out from 2005) wetting themselves at the fact a "BBC boss wants to cut out the swearing"

Personally, I know I'm probably talking on a much broader spectrum but my view is whether there is too much swearing on TV or not; who finds it offensive and who doesn't etc, defeats the object. The fact is, maybe sad but true, those words are common place in our society today and we cannot go back to the 1950s where everything was "la de da". People will disagree but thats a fact I'm afraid - what next? Newsreaders return to read the news in dinner jackets and bow ties?

As for the tiresome Daily Mail - they will never really be happy unless the BBC closes down altogether or we stop paying our TV licenses in dispute (but thats another matter).
SO
Steven O
Swearing on the telly?
It's a load of bollocks. Laughing
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Brekkie posted:
Though it did surprise me that the Scottish found it more offensive than Londoners.


Did it now.

From your extensive research of watching old episodes of Minder, no doubt.
ST
stevek2
apparently we are so upset by certain arrangements of letters that even Scunthorpe has to be censored Confused

as does ghostwatch Wink

even seen ***bria censored on some website Rolling Eyes

the daftest is *****, a word for a female dog that gets censored out of normal conversation because we use it as an expletive
RM
Roger Mellie
Brekkie posted:
There is a fine balance to be achieved. As you say, the chefs seem to be the worse but while with Gordon Ramsey it's kind of what made his name, because Jamie Oliver started out pre-watershed he does seem to be kind of doing it for effect at times.

On the other hand though, like it or not swear words are parts of most people's vocabulary and it would be insane for broadcasters to have to behave otherwise, especially in the context of (post-watershed) drama. Viewers aren't stupid either - if it's well written and natural people expect the language to be realistic, and people can see straight through a show that's trying to be something it isn't by having a high swear count.

Personally I think the watershed is the clearest guideline there is and has been very effective, and although it's right to say that's just because it's on after 9pm a programme doesn't have to contain bad language, it should be a decision solely down to the programme makers - and not done to appease those folk who let their kids stay up and watch any old filth and then complain about it.


I do agree with what your saying, we have a Watershed for a reason. Also people do swear in real-life, and I'm not against swearing per se.

In my view swearing on telly programmes is like vinegar. A little bit adds some extra flavour to your meal, but it you drown your food in it, that's all you can taste. I appreciate that I can turn off Ramsay or Oliver if I wish.

I find it highly ironic words such as "dyke" and "faggot" are considered "offensive", when such words are now used by gay men and lesbians to describe themselves! In recent years such words have been reclaimed by the gay community in a postmodern way, to take the sting out of those words. Although one may argue such a shift is lost on the authoritarian PC speech police!
SP
Spencer
nok32uk posted:
As for the tiresome Daily Mail - they will never really be happy unless the BBC closes down altogether or we stop paying our TV licenses in dispute (but thats another matter).


I think that sentence would have been more accurate if you'd just ended it after 'happy'.
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stevek2
what I don't get is it's more offensive to tell you to **** off than to say I'll kill you Confused

although the latter could get you arrested as it's a death threat

find it really bad how easily some of my work colleagues say they want to kill child x for being a pain, sometimes more than they praise the same child x for behaving Shocked
RM
Roger Mellie
stevek2 posted:
what I don't get is it's more offensive to tell you to **** off than to say I'll kill you Confused

although the latter could get you arrested as it's a death threat

find it really bad how easily some of my work colleagues say they want to kill child x for being a pain, sometimes more than they praise the same child x for behaving Shocked


That's sadly not surprising, considering one can get arrested for doing one's job as a shadow Home Office minister Shocked

It appears a lot of seemingly innocent things can now be rendered 'illegal', given this government's anti-terrorist laws have very elastic limits. Even more worrying when combined with the Government's obsession with the surveillance state.

Hope you all sleep well tonight Laughing
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stevek2
yes big bugger is watching you
Twisted Evil
MH
miss hellfire
Gavin Scott posted:
Brekkie posted:
Isn't it about time the women of this country toughened up - I didn't realise so many of them read the Daily Mail!


Any chance we can have "Daily Mail" added to the swear filter?

most of

your posts make me think you've got sand in your vagina.


He has a mangina.

I hate alot of this fear of offending the minority. This PC malarky gets my hackles up. Its like we don't know where to draw the line.
Not everyone in the world is like JM.
RM
Roger Mellie
stevek2 posted:
yes big b****r is watching you
Twisted Evil


Laughing Well humour is the best response... although they'll probably ban that before to long Wink

Surely it's "Big Sister" is watching you, to quote the regular Comrade Brown slot in Private Eye (a reference to Harriet Harperson).

The thing that makes me laugh about "fear of offending X" is that such pronouncements often emanate from the least persecuted group: White, male, Christian, English, straight men-- ironically disadvanting themselves with positive discrimination in the process.

They're taking offence on behalf of "minority" groups, which is a bit patronising (or even offensive?) Perhaps its better to ask people how they would like to be referred to as; rather than imperious scrubbing the language, to justify their politicial existence.

The thing to remember in life is this: "Nobody can make you feel inferior, without your consent" Wink

[Steps of soapbox, shakes cane]
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stevek2
I'm offended by the fact that nobody had offended me today. I demand my basic human right to be offended at least once in any given 24 hour period Confused

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