ST
Here's an interesting article about the 12 localized versions of The Apprentice.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/282676p-242165c.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/282676p-242165c.html
ST
Yes I noticed that. Also I didn't notice a credit for Englishman Mark Burnett who created The Apprentice and produces it in the States. The copyright at the end was for the British production company not JMBP, Inc. which is Mark Burnett's holding company which owns the show.
I don't whether the titles have been changed but there was a wealth of credits for Mark Burnett at the end of tonights second episode of The Apprentice UK. Credited as the Creator and one of the Executive Producers of the show, and it's a co-Production of Mark Burnett Productions and Talkback.
stuartfanning posted:
Hatton Cross posted:
Was it me or during the end credits there was no mention to the American production company that made the show for NBC - and hold the format rights?
HC
Yes, I noticed Mark's name listed amoungst the 3 other Exec producers - and his company logo now appears above the TalkbackThames one.
Good. Nice to see him credited properly this week.
Good. Nice to see him credited properly this week.
WI
I chose to watch Crimewatch UK instead. I wish I taped The Apprentice but my video recoder has broken down. However, I managed to catch the end when Lindsey was fired. Can someone give me a lowdown on what happened? If anybody has got a recording of it which they could put on Realplayer or Media Palyer for me to download, I would really appreciate it.
Cheers.
Cheers.
WI
I've just discovered that both this weeks and last weeks programmes are gonna be repeated on BBC2.
Episode 1 at 11.15pm (on Saturday)
Episode 2 at 12.15am (early Sunday morning).
winifred posted:
I chose to watch Crimewatch UK instead. I wish I taped The Apprentice but my video recoder has broken down. However, I managed to catch the end when Lindsey was fired. Can someone give me a lowdown on what happened? If anybody has got a recording of it which they could put on Realplayer or Media Palyer for me to download, I would really appreciate it.
Cheers.
Cheers.
I've just discovered that both this weeks and last weeks programmes are gonna be repeated on BBC2.
Episode 1 at 11.15pm (on Saturday)
Episode 2 at 12.15am (early Sunday morning).
RO
I just watched the first episode and as i predicted that as a british programme it was going to employ the use of a narrator instead of having producers interview candidates so that they can be used to paint a picture of a show. After the task delivery there was litle or no mention of Sugar.
With the US programme Trump would give a little lesson wrt the task like 'you gotta belive' ie if you dont like your product you wont be able to sell it. This breaks the show down and we never loose sight of the big picture. There was a lack of music and very poor editing.
However the show picked up considerably during the task phase and the selling made it enjoyable. Sugar is in his element in the boardroom and was pretty good at interrogating the candidates.
This show would be much much better with Sugar narrating instead of the some boring, monotone voice over person.
With the US programme Trump would give a little lesson wrt the task like 'you gotta belive' ie if you dont like your product you wont be able to sell it. This breaks the show down and we never loose sight of the big picture. There was a lack of music and very poor editing.
However the show picked up considerably during the task phase and the selling made it enjoyable. Sugar is in his element in the boardroom and was pretty good at interrogating the candidates.
This show would be much much better with Sugar narrating instead of the some boring, monotone voice over person.
ST
When replying on this subject on the TVAus forum you also said that British shows only seem to appeal to Pensioners in Australia, and that the Aussie commercial networks would not buy The Apprentice UK. Could it be that they fill their schedules with US shows as they are comparatively cheap to buy?
routemarker posted:
I just watched the first episode and as i predicted that as a british programme it was going to employ the use of a narrator instead of having producers interview candidates so that they can be used to paint a picture of a show. After the task delivery there was litle or no mention of Sugar.
With the US programme Trump would give a little lesson wrt the task like 'you gotta belive' ie if you dont like your product you wont be able to sell it. This breaks the show down and we never loose sight of the big picture. There was a lack of music and very poor editing.
However the show picked up considerably during the task phase and the selling made it enjoyable. Sugar is in his element in the boardroom and was pretty good at interrogating the candidates.
This show would be much much better with Sugar narrating instead of the some boring, monotone voice over person.
With the US programme Trump would give a little lesson wrt the task like 'you gotta belive' ie if you dont like your product you wont be able to sell it. This breaks the show down and we never loose sight of the big picture. There was a lack of music and very poor editing.
However the show picked up considerably during the task phase and the selling made it enjoyable. Sugar is in his element in the boardroom and was pretty good at interrogating the candidates.
This show would be much much better with Sugar narrating instead of the some boring, monotone voice over person.
RO
It could and it seem Australians are generally spoilt by all the US product we get to see that they can be at a standard beyond the capabilities of Australian Producers but sometimes Autralians can do alot with the little they have. British shows are generally show and are more dialogue centric and traditional (ie consistent use of narrators).
Generally UK dramas and reality shows appeal to the more older audience. Very slow by US standards. Most viewers of British shows that air here (Coupling, The Bill, Dead Ringers etc) ait on the ABC the public broadcaster. They wouldnt air at all if it wasnt for them. However the British are great with Sketch comedy theres no doubt anout that, its something the US lack. Some sitcoms are good to like The office and Perfect World.
The US Apprentice is much much faster, has more fast edits and a great classy soundtrack. It uses the host (Donald Trump) to narrate the 'previously on The Apprentice' sections and interviews about business but the only people talking on the show will be the contestants and Trumsp henchmen.
I cringed when they used a narrator to introducethe candidates, i kept thinking why didnt they just leave the candidate to talk about themselves. Or have an introdution section.
Overall its alright. The US version is slowing down in OZ so the UK imitation would probably be thrown right out.
US shows may be cheaper to buy but even that being so if it didn't rate and resulted in profits for the company they wouldbegiven the chop.
UK product is still cheaper than Australian Made material. You cant just use the excuse that its just hard to compete because of cost. A combination of cost and quality comes into play.
And with the amount of swearing on the show they would require the network to censor the lot of it. ON the ABC f**k is fine past 9.30 but on a commercial net such things may result in lower ratings.
stuartfanning posted:
When replying on this subject on the TVAus forum you also said that British shows only seem to appeal to Pensioners in Australia, and that the Aussie commercial networks would not buy The Apprentice UK. Could it be that they fill their schedules with US shows as they are comparatively cheap to buy?
It could and it seem Australians are generally spoilt by all the US product we get to see that they can be at a standard beyond the capabilities of Australian Producers but sometimes Autralians can do alot with the little they have. British shows are generally show and are more dialogue centric and traditional (ie consistent use of narrators).
Generally UK dramas and reality shows appeal to the more older audience. Very slow by US standards. Most viewers of British shows that air here (Coupling, The Bill, Dead Ringers etc) ait on the ABC the public broadcaster. They wouldnt air at all if it wasnt for them. However the British are great with Sketch comedy theres no doubt anout that, its something the US lack. Some sitcoms are good to like The office and Perfect World.
The US Apprentice is much much faster, has more fast edits and a great classy soundtrack. It uses the host (Donald Trump) to narrate the 'previously on The Apprentice' sections and interviews about business but the only people talking on the show will be the contestants and Trumsp henchmen.
I cringed when they used a narrator to introducethe candidates, i kept thinking why didnt they just leave the candidate to talk about themselves. Or have an introdution section.
Overall its alright. The US version is slowing down in OZ so the UK imitation would probably be thrown right out.
US shows may be cheaper to buy but even that being so if it didn't rate and resulted in profits for the company they wouldbegiven the chop.
UK product is still cheaper than Australian Made material. You cant just use the excuse that its just hard to compete because of cost. A combination of cost and quality comes into play.
And with the amount of swearing on the show they would require the network to censor the lot of it. ON the ABC f**k is fine past 9.30 but on a commercial net such things may result in lower ratings.
DU
1.Sugar said on Five Live the other day that he HAS to use the phrase "You're Fired" as part of the distribution rights for the show.
[He actually said he'd prefer something like "get lost"]
2. Sugar also said the American version was too much of a vehicle for Trump to advertise his goods- there are clearly ilmits on how much Amstrad can be mentioned/advertised on the BBC.
3. Donald Trump tried (unsuccessfully) to trademark the phrase "You're Fired" following the sensational success of Series 1 in the US.
[This hasn't stopped him making a fortune from merchandise using the phrase]
4. In the US, Martha Stewart has joined Trump for the new season (No. 3), with rumours that the show has been guaranteed to run at least 7 seasons.
5. "The Apprentice" US has entered a phase of continuous application- in other words you can apply to be on the show at any time....they're always looking for new contestants for the forthcoming seasons.
[He actually said he'd prefer something like "get lost"]
2. Sugar also said the American version was too much of a vehicle for Trump to advertise his goods- there are clearly ilmits on how much Amstrad can be mentioned/advertised on the BBC.
3. Donald Trump tried (unsuccessfully) to trademark the phrase "You're Fired" following the sensational success of Series 1 in the US.
[This hasn't stopped him making a fortune from merchandise using the phrase]
4. In the US, Martha Stewart has joined Trump for the new season (No. 3), with rumours that the show has been guaranteed to run at least 7 seasons.
5. "The Apprentice" US has entered a phase of continuous application- in other words you can apply to be on the show at any time....they're always looking for new contestants for the forthcoming seasons.
ST
1/ Yes Sugar complained about having to use the term from the start. But, as you say, it's part of the deal.
2/ Yes it has been used to promote Trump properties. It hasn't always made a difference as his Atlantic City Casino, promoted during the first season is in severe financial difficulties.
3/ Trump was not the only one. The British producer of The Apprentice: Mark Burnett also has been trying to register it.
4/ Trump has signed to do Seasons 4 and 5 which will be produced in the Summer. Martha Stewart will be doing a separate 'Apprentice' spin-off which will probably initially involve Trump.
5/ As I understand it the Producers are currently going from city to city interviewing for both the Trump and Martha Stewart versions.
Dunedin posted:
1.Sugar said on Five Live the other day that he HAS to use the phrase "You're Fired" as part of the distribution rights for the show.
[He actually said he'd prefer something like "get lost"]
2. Sugar also said the American version was too much of a vehicle for Trump to advertise his goods- there are clearly ilmits on how much Amstrad can be mentioned/advertised on the BBC.
3. Donald Trump tried (unsuccessfully) to trademark the phrase "You're Fired" following the sensational success of Series 1 in the US.
[This hasn't stopped him making a fortune from merchandise using the phrase]
4. In the US, Martha Stewart has joined Trump for the new season (No. 3), with rumours that the show has been guaranteed to run at least 7 seasons.
5. "The Apprentice" US has entered a phase of continuous application- in other words you can apply to be on the show at any time....they're always looking for new contestants for the forthcoming seasons.
[He actually said he'd prefer something like "get lost"]
2. Sugar also said the American version was too much of a vehicle for Trump to advertise his goods- there are clearly ilmits on how much Amstrad can be mentioned/advertised on the BBC.
3. Donald Trump tried (unsuccessfully) to trademark the phrase "You're Fired" following the sensational success of Series 1 in the US.
[This hasn't stopped him making a fortune from merchandise using the phrase]
4. In the US, Martha Stewart has joined Trump for the new season (No. 3), with rumours that the show has been guaranteed to run at least 7 seasons.
5. "The Apprentice" US has entered a phase of continuous application- in other words you can apply to be on the show at any time....they're always looking for new contestants for the forthcoming seasons.
1/ Yes Sugar complained about having to use the term from the start. But, as you say, it's part of the deal.
2/ Yes it has been used to promote Trump properties. It hasn't always made a difference as his Atlantic City Casino, promoted during the first season is in severe financial difficulties.
3/ Trump was not the only one. The British producer of The Apprentice: Mark Burnett also has been trying to register it.
4/ Trump has signed to do Seasons 4 and 5 which will be produced in the Summer. Martha Stewart will be doing a separate 'Apprentice' spin-off which will probably initially involve Trump.
5/ As I understand it the Producers are currently going from city to city interviewing for both the Trump and Martha Stewart versions.
ST
It could and it seem Australians are generally spoilt by all the US product we get to see that they can be at a standard beyond the capabilities of Australian Producers but sometimes Autralians can do alot with the little they have. British shows are generally show and are more dialogue centric and traditional (ie consistent use of narrators).
Generally UK dramas and reality shows appeal to the more older audience. Very slow by US standards. Most viewers of British shows that air here (Coupling, The Bill, Dead Ringers etc) ait on the ABC the public broadcaster. They wouldnt air at all if it wasnt for them. However the British are great with Sketch comedy theres no doubt anout that, its something the US lack. Some sitcoms are good to like The office and Perfect World.
The US Apprentice is much much faster, has more fast edits and a great classy soundtrack. It uses the host (Donald Trump) to narrate the 'previously on The Apprentice' sections and interviews about business but the only people talking on the show will be the contestants and Trumsp henchmen.
I cringed when they used a narrator to introducethe candidates, i kept thinking why didnt they just leave the candidate to talk about themselves. Or have an introdution section.
Overall its alright. The US version is slowing down in OZ so the UK imitation would probably be thrown right out.
US shows may be cheaper to buy but even that being so if it didn't rate and resulted in profits for the company they wouldbegiven the chop.
UK product is still cheaper than Australian Made material. You cant just use the excuse that its just hard to compete because of cost. A combination of cost and quality comes into play.
And with the amount of swearing on the show they would require the network to censor the lot of it. ON the ABC f**k is fine past 9.30 but on a commercial net such things may result in lower ratings.
The whole world is spoilt, if that's the right word, with the US product available. The problem in Australia is that the terrestrial commercial networks are greedy and because of week regulation they can get away with it. It's relatively cheap to buy in US product rather than commisioning Australian produced product. In the UK the 5 terrestrial networks produce or commission a lot of British made product, as well as buying top US shows. However in the UK it's the Cable/Satellite networks whose prime time hours are dominated by US product. So in the UK we are getting the best of both worlds. The terrestrial commercial networks in Australia are short-changing Australian producers.
I agree with you re The Apprentice. The US version is much better produced. The voiceovers used in the UK version is very old fashioned and un-necessary.
I was surprised to hear that Seven , Nine and Ten would not buy programmes with swearing even if they were going to be scheduled after 9.00pm. Have the US shows like Deadwood, The Wire and The Soprano's not been shown in Australia?
routemarker posted:
stuartfanning posted:
When replying on this subject on the TVAus forum you also said that British shows only seem to appeal to Pensioners in Australia, and that the Aussie commercial networks would not buy The Apprentice UK. Could it be that they fill their schedules with US shows as they are comparatively cheap to buy?
It could and it seem Australians are generally spoilt by all the US product we get to see that they can be at a standard beyond the capabilities of Australian Producers but sometimes Autralians can do alot with the little they have. British shows are generally show and are more dialogue centric and traditional (ie consistent use of narrators).
Generally UK dramas and reality shows appeal to the more older audience. Very slow by US standards. Most viewers of British shows that air here (Coupling, The Bill, Dead Ringers etc) ait on the ABC the public broadcaster. They wouldnt air at all if it wasnt for them. However the British are great with Sketch comedy theres no doubt anout that, its something the US lack. Some sitcoms are good to like The office and Perfect World.
The US Apprentice is much much faster, has more fast edits and a great classy soundtrack. It uses the host (Donald Trump) to narrate the 'previously on The Apprentice' sections and interviews about business but the only people talking on the show will be the contestants and Trumsp henchmen.
I cringed when they used a narrator to introducethe candidates, i kept thinking why didnt they just leave the candidate to talk about themselves. Or have an introdution section.
Overall its alright. The US version is slowing down in OZ so the UK imitation would probably be thrown right out.
US shows may be cheaper to buy but even that being so if it didn't rate and resulted in profits for the company they wouldbegiven the chop.
UK product is still cheaper than Australian Made material. You cant just use the excuse that its just hard to compete because of cost. A combination of cost and quality comes into play.
And with the amount of swearing on the show they would require the network to censor the lot of it. ON the ABC f**k is fine past 9.30 but on a commercial net such things may result in lower ratings.
I agree with you re The Apprentice. The US version is much better produced. The voiceovers used in the UK version is very old fashioned and un-necessary.
I was surprised to hear that Seven , Nine and Ten would not buy programmes with swearing even if they were going to be scheduled after 9.00pm. Have the US shows like Deadwood, The Wire and The Soprano's not been shown in Australia?