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Anologue TV down in Border TV region

(January 2005)

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JF
JFC On The Web
Can someone tell me, when a transmitter is down, what appears on telly. Is it coloured bars, static, or what?
SO
Steven O
GavBelfast posted:
I noticed there was no Border news earlier, too, as I had tuned in to see how Carlisle was coping with the weather. Are their studios flooded, too?

Noticed the Border Weather was on, but then it is done from Leeds, too, isn't it?

Scottish TV covered the Larne-Cairnryan ferry incident, when that is geographically Border's patch, too.


Well Border were hardly in a position to cover it, were they - no power, flooding, and the city's road connections cut off.....! Cairnryan will be used as a main ferry terminal by folk in the west of Scotland and is just outside the official Scottish TV area, I suspect they might just be able to pick up a signal there. Carlisle folk have been warned it might take up to 30 hours to reconnect the supply. Caldbeck went off air just after lunchtime, during an ad break in the middle of Airport 75.

Oddly, although there is no picture on Border, there is still a signal on Teletext.
TE
TELEVISION
JFC On The Web posted:
Can someone tell me, when a transmitter is down, what appears on telly. Is it coloured bars, static, or what?


Static
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Adam
Our local relay (Shotleyfield, Pontop Relay, TTTV) is down, possibly wind damage as the power is now back on for this area (there's also some strange sort of interference on the usual snow) - DTT is unaffected, obviously, because it only carries 1-4 analogue. Pontop Pike hasn't had any problems.
SO
Steven O
Came across this on the dtt-tx-info.org website regarding the Caldbeck transmitter:

http://dtt-tx-info.org/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=79

Update, 2215: sound has now also gone.

Channel identifier on Border reads "itv1".

Update 2, 2245: Border now seems to be broadcasting a feed from London, with no announcements or weather forecast. An LNN board was shown in place of the weather.
ND
NorthDown2
Cambret Hill relay (which I believe takes its feed from Caldbeck) both border and C4 have been down. BBC1 & 2 Scotland are both on air fed from Sandale (situated very close to Caldbeck). No signal at all - just static. I'd have thought after the Christmas about 4 / 5 years ago that somone would have sorted an arrangement for these txs in poor weather to keep broadcasting. I can undertand a relay going down but Caldbeck is major tx. I recall someone saying in the storms 4 /5 years ago that the BBC had to take a sky digi box to one of the txs as the feed had gone down and fed SW Scotland BBC NE for a few days and managed at the last minute to switch to Scotland for Hogmanay.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
JFC On The Web posted:
Can someone tell me, when a transmitter is down, what appears on telly. Is it coloured bars, static, or what?


It depends whether it's the transmitter that's down, in which case it will be static as mentioned earlier, or whether the transmitter has lost its feed, in which case you'll get this:

http://www.meldrum.co.uk/mhp/continuity/images/itv_79.jpg
(source: MHP)

BBC transmitters will rebroadcast another transmitter as per the tests the other night.
JF
JFC On The Web
Thanks
FG
Funky Guy
We are still getting Tyne Tees and North East News on Border.I just mentioned in The News Room thread that we at least got the Border weather yesterday and today it's Tyne Tees weather what the ***** has that got to do with South Scotland.Border the poor excuse for local ITV.
ND
NorthDown2
Cambret Hill now broadcasting an ITV signal but with no sound - was on during boar show goin into ad break but cut during the break. No C4.

I take it then if there is national emergency, we tune to the BBC then with the engineering test (who can also broadcast from Birmingham if London is out), and not to ITV?
SO
Steven O
Funky Guy posted:
We are still getting Tyne Tees and North East News on Border.I just mentioned in The News Room thread that we at least got the Border weather yesterday and today it's Tyne Tees weather what the ***** has that got to do with South Scotland.Border the poor excuse for local ITV.


To be fair to them, they've been the victims of circumstance (this being floods and power cuts). Don't forget that TTTV does reach into part of Southern Scotland, and it could have been worse - it could have been Granada, with which Border has spoon-fed its output into Scotland over the years.

I daresay questions will be asked as a result of this. You can bet your boots, though, that if it had been ITV London that had gone off-air, the problems would have been fixed one hell of a lot quicker.
KH
KevHal
Hey people, our town is flooded and trees are thrown everywhere. Not realizing how bad things were, had planned a shopping trip to carlisle. As our electricity was off we decided to go anyway.... down the M6.. bout 14 lorries all overturned, several pile ups... it was horrible.
Got turned back at carlisle saying its a no go area.

Went to penrith today (who do have electricty) to get stocked up and was completly swamped with people from carlise. It was chaos.

This county is a mess, Calbeck is down, Border tv is off..... But this is no way as bad as the tsunami. We were lucky in a way.

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