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Annual BBC RBS tests

Wednesday 9th January (December 2007)

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JV
James Vertigan Founding member
According to the uk.tech.broadcast group, the annual BBC RBS tests will take place on Wednesday 9th January, from 02:30-03:30 on BBC TWO and 04:30-05:30 on BBC ONE.

There's also some interesting discussion there about what will happen regarding the RBS tests as the UK starts the digital switch over.
ST
stevek
and I get hammered for inane posts? Rolling Eyes
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DrCheese
stevek posted:
and I get hammered for inane posts? Rolling Eyes


no its actually useful, isn't this the only time of the year nowadays that we see the BBC testcard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFwDCtls5TA Thats from last year.
I'll probably don my anorak and record it via TV card.
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tvarksouthwest
Indeed it is, and it would be good to see digital take part in these tests this year too.
RE
Revitt
What is RBS?
ST
steddenm
Revitt posted:
What is RBS?


Royal Bank of Scotland? Rolling Eyes
DB
dbl
Revitt posted:
What is RBS?

Rebroadcast System
IS
Inspector Sands
tvarksouthwest posted:
Indeed it is, and it would be good to see digital take part in these tests this year too.


The current DTT system doesn't work in the same way, there is less redundancy and certainly no Rebroadcast System.

When the permanent (post-switchover) network is up and running there will almost certainly be some sort of backup but whether it will resemble the current RBS setup I don't know (if it is possible to have such a thing on digital). I'd have thought that a satellite based system like that used for BBC DAB would be more likely.

All there is at the moment is a single relay transmitter (converted to be a main transmitter) and 3 of its dependents.... there's nothing to test. Digital will have to get involved once the first main transmitters in the Border area switchover
RE
Revitt
steddenm posted:
Revitt posted:
What is RBS?


Royal Bank of Scotland? Rolling Eyes


I wonder why I saw that one coming a mile off?

Thanks dbl.
RU
russnet Founding member
How about this for trade test transmission...
MU
mulder
stevek posted:
and I get hammered for inane posts? Rolling Eyes


What?!?? This thread should be sticky!!! Laughing
NG
noggin Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Indeed it is, and it would be good to see digital take part in these tests this year too.


The current DTT system doesn't work in the same way, there is less redundancy and certainly no Rebroadcast System.

When the permanent (post-switchover) network is up and running there will almost certainly be some sort of backup but whether it will resemble the current RBS setup I don't know (if it is possible to have such a thing on digital). I'd have thought that a satellite based system like that used for BBC DAB would be more likely.

All there is at the moment is a single relay transmitter (converted to be a main transmitter) and 3 of its dependents.... there's nothing to test. Digital will have to get involved once the first main transmitters in the Border area switchover


Yep - very interesting question.

Presumably any satellite distribution would need to be from two separate satellites to avoid sun-outage? ISTR that Five feed their analogue transmitters via satellite - but have transponders on two satellites in different orbital positions to avoid this - and feed Croydon by fibre ever since heavy rain took London's five broadcasts off-air a few years ago. (Though presumably the Beeb haven't done this for the Channel Islands - who are the only other region who get their analogue TV via satellite - this time from BBC One Channel Islands on DSat)

All the main DTT transmitters are currently fed fibre, and have local data insertion on top of the network feeds, so that they carry the correct transmitter ID etc.

Rebroadcasting them without decoding could be an issue - and if we ever move to single frequency networks simple rebroadcasting / relaying becomes impossible AIUI. (The transmitters have to be in-sync - as per DAB which also uses SFNs - for them to work)

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