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[Was:BBC and ITV Breakdown Captions] [See Pg. 8] (January 2007)

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JS
Janner south west
it's a good idea but i would still prefer not to see the listings. people already have acces to these by the channel, ceefax/teletext, mags, etc...

I think as a back up they could get the CA to say what programmes are on later in between music.
OV
Orry Verducci
Janner south west posted:
it's a good idea but i would still prefer not to see the listings. people already have acces to these by the channel, ceefax/teletext, mags, etc...

Understood, but I think one of the fundamental reasons they are using a programme menu is that 'it's more interesting'. If it simply says there is a technical problem, especially for prolonged faults, the viewer will get fed up and switchover, which the channel doesn't want.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Ahh yes... the good old "Follows Shortly" slides on BBC2 accompanied by the compulsory plinky-plonky music! They should bring those back!
CO
Connews
I liked BBC's old sombre ident before the rebrand... it was called Reflections and had loads of women doing Tai Chi near the sea or something...
JO
Jonny
Connews posted:
I liked BBC's old sombre ident before the rebrand... it was called Reflections and had loads of women doing Tai Chi near the sea or something...

This is Tai-Chi
But this wasnt the sombre dancers ident. The sombre ident was Ballet
CO
Connews
Thanks for correcting me.
That's what I meant!! >.<
IS
Inspector Sands
Orry Verducci posted:
Understood, but I think one of the fundamental reasons they are using a programme menu is that 'it's more interesting'.


However the main problem with a programme menu is that it needs to be updated regularly, either after each programme or several times a day - to show 'tonight', 'tomorrow' and be updated for schedule changes.

There was a system at the beeb (they might still have it) that would generate menu slides automatically but it wasn't perfect and still needed someone to get it to update. For something that is only shown once in a blue moon it's not really worth it
GR
Greggles
Bring back the testcard. You never see them anymore.
JO
Joe
I think that would look silly, it looks much better to have a channel identifier.
OV
Orry Verducci
Inspector Sands posted:
However the main problem with a programme menu is that it needs to be updated regularly, either after each programme or several times a day - to show 'tonight', 'tomorrow' and be updated for schedule changes.

There was a system at the beeb (they might still have it) that would generate menu slides automatically but it wasn't perfect and still needed someone to get it to update. For something that is only shown once in a blue moon it's not really worth it

I think ITV's is generated automatically using the listings on the playout system. Considering ITV do programme menu's on just about every break, I would be very surprised if it isn't automated. That, and the transition from static logo to programme menu is too quick for it to be made manually. I guess the only reason the logo is put up first so they can tell the system to freeze the animation and show more programmes on the list.
DB
dbl
Greggles posted:
Bring back the testcard. You never see them anymore.

That has to be the must stupid descion a broadcaster makes. Viewers would probably think it's closedown or "not working" they didn't do that in the old days why now?
JS
Janner south west
dbl posted:
Greggles posted:
Bring back the testcard. You never see them anymore.

That has to be the must stupid descion a broadcaster makes. Viewers would probably think it's closedown or "not working" they didn't do that in the old days why now?


i have to agree it would cause to much confusion. mind you when i saw the ITV breakdown with the programme menu even i was confused! Laughing

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