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Alex Trebek has died

The host of Jeopardy! was 80.

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They change them at the start of every season. It likely won’t be updated until September at least.
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Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
The more I see Jeopardy, the more it amazes me why it never worked over here. I think the format was dented somewhat because its all played for cash (in America anyway, same for Wheel of Fortune) and because we couldn't give away a fortune all those figures were just used (for WoF anyway) to decide who went to win the star prize. In America you land on $1,000 on the wheel, you will add $1,000 to your kitty and assuming you don't bankrupt yourself, you can take it away (and give a significant chunk of it to Uncle Sam, but them's the rules).

I do wonder sometimes whether its worth somebody having a stab at adapting it over here again, properly. The days of having to convert figures to points is so 80s and 90s. We don't have to artificially cap prize value at £3,250 or whatever it was. Indeed we don't even need to give away a fortune in cash, maybe a Jeopardy trophy and a year's worth of bragging rights. Shows like Only Connect and University Challenge and Pointless are all long running (UC since 1994 in its current incarnation, OC now in its 16th series and Pointless has racked up over 1200 episodes), so knowing crap is definitely "in" at this time. Surely anybody of this target audience can answer with "What is Weston-super-Mare?" Smile
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Inspector Sands
I think the answer with a question thing is a bit of turn off. In fact I'm pretty sure that the British version that ITV did in the 90s abandoned the idea.

It's a fairly basic quiz that's nothing special, it's only USP is the above silly idea, and that it's the one serious quiz in the US, something that's not the case here
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Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
Well realistically if the answer with a question thing is a turn off, surely its no different to turning up to Only Connect and being presented with a series of seemingly random clues and being asked to figure what the hell these things all have in common. That's that show's successful USP.

I mean realistically a lot of question based gameshows are all the same, they're just dressed up in different packaging. At a basic level even Blockbusters, Weakest Link, The Chase all basically boil down to a simple "fire questions at you" format, once you take all the pretty gummings off of all of them, they're just regular fire questions. But they all ran for years. Even something more complicated like the clues for Treasure Hunt for example, and that ran for years. Kypton Factor's mental agility threw bespoke random crap at you and although it wasn't the main element of the show, the entire format ran for 15 years.

Years ago gameshows were out of fashion and vanishing off the networks like they had the plague. And then they all came back again with new formats. Even daytime shows are happy to lob four, five digit figure jackpots in, which was something you would never had happen in the 1980s and 1990s, all that was reserved for the peak time programming, and on daytime you'd just win a teapot or something. Broadcasting environment has changed after all compared to the 90s version which was just a cheap knockoff.
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I think the answer with a question thing is a bit of turn off. In fact I'm pretty sure that the British version that ITV did in the 90s abandoned the idea.

It's a fairly basic quiz that's nothing special, it's only USP is the above silly idea, and that it's the one serious quiz in the US, something that's not the case here

It just seems a bit redundant to have that format when most the answers are somewhat set up as questions and the answers (or is that questions) have to be reframed to fit the brief.

I don't think it would work as a straight quiz here - might do better using the concept for a panel game where there is potential to go off on a tangent with the possible questions.
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DavidWhitfield Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
I'm sure I'll be in the minority here but having viewed episodes and clips online over the years, I can't watch Jeopardy! for more than five minutes as I find the whole "what is [something]?" style just irritates me too much. I can't explain why, but it just grates on me. A straight question/answer quiz, I absolutely love, but I just can't get into this format. Merely personal preference, of course, and it's clear that there are many, many others who feel quite the opposite to me judging by the format's success overseas.
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Jon Central (West) Midlands Today
I think the answer with a question thing is a bit of turn off. In fact I'm pretty sure that the British version that ITV did in the 90s abandoned the idea.

It's a fairly basic quiz that's nothing special, it's only USP is the above silly idea, and that it's the one serious quiz in the US, something that's not the case here

It just seems a bit redundant to have that format when most the answers are somewhat set up as questions and the answers (or is that questions) have to be reframed to fit the brief.

Yes, it seems to me from the few bits of its I’ve ever seen that it’s a case of “make your answers sound like questions to our questions that we make sound vaguely like answers”, it’s very much a gimmick. That said it’s lasted long enough over there but that probably has more to do with it being as close as you can get to proper quiz show on US TV and it now being part of their culture as Countdown is here.

The Only Connect comparison is totally irrelevant because it’s not some contrived way of asking regular trivia questions on that show.
Last edited by Jon on 12 January 2021 5:30pm - 3 times in total
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sjhoward Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Jon posted:
Yes, it seems to me from the few bits of its I’ve ever seen that it’s a case of “make your answers sound like questions to our questions that we make sound vaguely like answers”, it’s very much a gimmick.


The problem is that the “answers” are not “answers” to the “questions”.

To take the first example from the above video: on any regular quiz show, if you were asked “What is 90210?” and gave the answer “This title ZIP code was first addressed in 1990, repackaged in 2008 and sent again in 2019” — you wouldn’t be getting many points. It’s a format point, but it’s one that is off-putting to newcomers.

Given the relative popularity of crosswords in the UK, I do wonder if presenting the board as “crossword clues” rather than “trivia answers” might have been a useful bit of UK localisation when it was attempted here.
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Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
Given the relative popularity of crosswords in the UK, I do wonder if presenting the board as “crossword clues” rather than “trivia answers” might have been a useful bit of UK localisation when it was attempted here.


Didn't we already do that with Crosswits?
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UBox Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Given the relative popularity of crosswords in the UK, I do wonder if presenting the board as “crossword clues” rather than “trivia answers” might have been a useful bit of UK localisation when it was attempted here.


Didn't we already do that with Crosswits?

GSN in the states have a show called People Puzzler which is effectively just a crossword. However, they've 'GSN-ed' it by making you play for points, having rounds with random bonus points and having a $10k jackpot. It's pretty rubbish as a format.
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Inspector Sands
Well realistically if the answer with a question thing is a turn off, surely its no different to turning up to Only Connect and being presented with a series of seemingly random clues and being asked to figure what the hell these things all have in common. That's that show's successful USP.

And its a rubbish USP. As others have said, it makes the answers/questions so contrived they just sound awful.

I don't get your Only Connect comparison as that is the actual game, not a gimmick

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