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(October 2001)

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EDTV
andyrew posted:
The only restrictions for BBC World is that it is not re-broadcast in the USA.  As BBC World is not full time in America it is not a problem.  Fot the first couple of weeks after Sept 11, BBC America was rolling with World in the evenings (US time), we had to opt them out around 0030 GMT, and bring them back at 0100 GMT to get around this problem.

The PBS network do not take BBC World full time, and only take certain 25'30' bulliteins.


PBS probably needs the audience... Razz:

I also noticed something. In Canada, CBC Newsworld opts to BBC World for about half an hour at 16.00 my time (23.00 UK) - which means that we get the live feed. The PBS station that I receive broadcasts BBC World News at 18.00 (01.00 UK), and it has a business report on it.

Does BBC deal with the individual PBS stations of whether or not they get to broadcast a bulletin, or does PBS themselves do it?
TP
Techy Peep Founding member
andyrew posted:

LOL.  No comment (wasn't me before you lot ask).  Funny reading the log the day after. Wink

Guess what happened last Monday didn't appear in the World Pres log, but serious feathers flew!
N24 were told by World News & Pres that they had to fill the 0545 hole during commercial break, so they dutifully did & ran promos!

Except they shouldn't have - in all the confusion of the day World forgot they provided UK Biz News for UK while Pres where on a break. Ooops
TP
Techy Peep Founding member
EDTV posted:

Does BBC deal with the individual PBS stations of whether or not they get to broadcast a bulletin, or does PBS themselves do it?

Another one for Andyrew, but AFAIK WLIW are the providers for all PBS networks, but each individual network have to arrange a deal with BBC Worldwide to re-transmit portions of World
AN
andyrew Founding member
LOL @ Techy. Poor confused people that night. Infact the whole of the BBC was confused that night, World, 24 and public service - weren't they Techy? ROFL Very Happy Trouble is that time of night it is difficult to get information as all the schedulers and planners are tucked up in bed.

CBC do take a live news every day. All the distribution is handled by BBC Worldwide. News and Presentation do not really get involved in the wheeling and dealing, suffice to say we know who is with us and who isn't as there are major implications on output.

As for the PBS delivery, we supply and deal with WLIW in New York only. But I don't think WLIW physically distribute it round the states, I think they have some kind of PBS central network - but I can't be sure - I'm guessing. I am not also sure if the BBC has any hand in doing deals with individual PBS stations or if it is left to WLIW to sort.

I know when I was in LA last year I watched BBC World news on PBS, but it was infact a recorded bullitein, because I did my maths and relised that at the time I was watching it the World News studio people would have been tucked up in bed.
AN
andyrew Founding member
Techy Peep posted:
andyrew posted:

LOL.  No comment (wasn't me before you lot ask).  Funny reading the log the day after. Wink

Guess what happened last Monday didn't appear in the World Pres log, but serious feathers flew!
N24 were told by World News & Pres that they had to fill the 0545 hole during commercial break, so they dutifully did & ran promos!

Except they shouldn't have - in all the confusion of the day World forgot they provided UK Biz News for UK while Pres where on a break. Ooops


I did hear about that. But that's a news error, sorry, WBR, and nothing to do with presentation. We would have only logged it if we would have had to drop the break (ie N24 refused to cover)

WBR are a little scatty at times - I have got so mad with them before, but I shouldn't really say on here the ins and outs. But it's not exactly new, WBR covering UK biz news while World takes a break.
HA
harshy Founding member
Erm, so if BBC World is not available as a channel in America, how come it has a time for New York on it's trailers?
TP
Techy Peep Founding member
It IS available in the US, but doesn't have its own dedicated channel
MH
mhking
tvyvr4derek posted:
Since WNT comes out of the Eastern time zone, it should be shown on all ABC stations in that time zone at 6:30. (I think) However, it is taped for showing on the local stations out west. Since it's taped, it doesn't really matter what time the local station shows it at. Some show it at 5:30, some at 6, and some at 6:30.


WNT's primary feeds are at 6:30 & 7P ET. Most affiliates in the Eastern & Central time zones take one of these two feeds. (I know that WLS/Chicago takes the 6:30 feed -- 5:30 Central time, and WSB here in Atlanta takes the 7P feed) Usually, ABC/LA will feed at 5:30 & 6P PT for the Mountain & Pacific zones. Most of the time it's just a rebroadcast of the East Coast feeds, but if there is breaking news, they'll update it for the Western feed.

I'm pretty sure BBC is taking the 6P feed; this gives the editors/producers at N24 a little bit of time to do the edits necessary. I wouldn't be surprised if the pre-show rundown is sent over to them as well -- a final rundown would more than likely be available in print form about 30-45 mins. before air time.

The NBC Nightly News & CBS Evening News work the same way with their feeds. Fox doesn't feed their affiliates a newscast at this point, but there have always been rumors of a joint Fox Broadcast/Fox News Channel evening news simulcast, (it would run at 6P & 9P ET, and the affiliates would have the option to grab or not) but nothing solid.

M
MH
mhking
EDTV posted:

PBS probably needs the audience... Razz:

I also noticed something. In Canada, CBC Newsworld opts to BBC World for about half an hour at 16.00 my time (23.00 UK) - which means that we get the live feed. The PBS station that I receive broadcasts BBC World News at 18.00 (01.00 UK), and it has a business report on it.

Does BBC deal with the individual PBS stations of whether or not they get to broadcast a bulletin, or does PBS themselves do it?


PBS actually feeds several (I think it's three) different sets of feeds, and gives their affiliates MUCH more leeway as to what/when to take programming. Several individual stations provide programming to the net as a whole. This is why WLIW is quoted as the originating station. They receive the transmission, and provide it to the network as a whole. (WGBH/Boston, WTTW/Chicago, WETA/Washington, WQED/Pittsburgh & KQED/San Francisco are very notable for providing other PBS programming.

The two PBS affiliates here (GPTV/Atlanta & WPBA/Atlanta) have both made a decision not to carry the BBC World newscast that WLIW has offered, but they do carry (in the same early evening timeframe) PBS' other major news offering, The NewsHour (produced by WETA/Washington).

In comparison, of Chicago area's three PBS affiliates (WTTW, WYCC & WYIN), only WYCC carries BBC World. but that station does not carry The NewsHour. WTTW has The NewsHour followed by Chicago Tonight, and WYIN has The NewsHour followed by 56 Evening News.

Hope I haven't totally confused you...

M
DA
david16
ABC is short for the American Broadcasting Company, so there must be a very close connection with the British Broadcasting Corporation. So ABC News from US, and CBC Newsworld from Canada will be shown on BBC World.

So any worldwide TV station ending with BC are likely to have breaking news and other programmes broadcast on another worldwide TV station ending with BC.

Anybody agree.
AL
alekf
EDTV posted:
andyrew posted:
The only restrictions for BBC World is that it is not re-broadcast in the USA.  As BBC World is not full time in America it is not a problem.  Fot the first couple of weeks after Sept 11, BBC America was rolling with World in the evenings (US time), we had to opt them out around 0030 GMT, and bring them back at 0100 GMT to get around this problem.

The PBS network do not take BBC World full time, and only take certain 25'30' bulliteins.


PBS probably needs the audience... Razz:

I also noticed something. In Canada, CBC Newsworld opts to BBC World for about half an hour at 16.00 my time (23.00 UK) - which means that we get the live feed. The PBS station that I receive broadcasts BBC World News at 18.00 (01.00 UK), and it has a business report on it.

Does BBC deal with the individual PBS stations of whether or not they get to broadcast a bulletin, or does PBS themselves do it?


During 11th September and I think the next day, WLIW was broadcasting BBC World live, uninterrupted. They also have a special BBC World ident/music thingy they use before the programme for some sponsorship announcements. I would record it, but my VCR isn't working with the ariel Sad
MH
mhking
david16 posted:
ABC is short for the American Broadcasting Company, so there must be a very close connection with the British Broadcasting Corporation.  So ABC News from US, and CBC Newsworld from Canada will be shown on BBC World.

So any worldwide TV station ending with BC are likely to have breaking news and other programmes broadcast on another worldwide TV station ending with BC.

Anybody agree.


Not quite -- by your logic, NBC's programming (as in the National Broadcasting Company) would follow the same situation -- it clearly does not.

M

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