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Interesting... my box doesn't support it either - but I don't understand why, afterall, there is no new version of MHEG yet...
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cwathen
Founding member
Is this new service using MHEG or is it a custom application (like the old ONgames was). It just looks a lot more fancy than anything ever done in MHEG before. Or is this what MHEG is capable of when the bandwidth is there?
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
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Daewoo have announced a VHS VCR with an integrated DTT tuner that will be using the 4TV EPG for programming...
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
MS
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
cwathen posted:
Quote:
Daewoo have announced a VHS VCR with an integrated DTT tuner that will be using the 4TV EPG for programming...
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
CW
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
It's probably down to market demand; DVD recorders still cost a fair old bit, and the media for them is quite expensive compared to tape.
In contrast, even sub-£100 VHS decks are often packed full of features these days (and sub-£50 machines are now a reality), and VHS tape now costs peanuts (I remember in the 80's when my parents used to pay £10.99 for 2 E180 tapes, with inflation that would top £20 these days. In contrast, the local supermarket can often do you 5 E240s for less than a fiver). Whilst the quality is much lower, the cost factor makes it much more desirable to many people, and hence a DTT VCR is probably going to be more popular than a DTT DVD recorder. That said, i'm sure a DTT DVD will appear in due course.
cwathen
Founding member
Mark Smith posted:
cwathen posted:
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Daewoo have announced a VHS VCR with an integrated DTT tuner that will be using the 4TV EPG for programming...
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
It's probably down to market demand; DVD recorders still cost a fair old bit, and the media for them is quite expensive compared to tape.
In contrast, even sub-£100 VHS decks are often packed full of features these days (and sub-£50 machines are now a reality), and VHS tape now costs peanuts (I remember in the 80's when my parents used to pay £10.99 for 2 E180 tapes, with inflation that would top £20 these days. In contrast, the local supermarket can often do you 5 E240s for less than a fiver). Whilst the quality is much lower, the cost factor makes it much more desirable to many people, and hence a DTT VCR is probably going to be more popular than a DTT DVD recorder. That said, i'm sure a DTT DVD will appear in due course.
NG
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
It's probably down to market demand; DVD recorders still cost a fair old bit, and the media for them is quite expensive compared to tape.
In contrast, even sub-£100 VHS decks are often packed full of features these days (and sub-£50 machines are now a reality), and VHS tape now costs peanuts (I remember in the 80's when my parents used to pay £10.99 for 2 E180 tapes, with inflation that would top £20 these days. In contrast, the local supermarket can often do you 5 E240s for less than a fiver). Whilst the quality is much lower, the cost factor makes it much more desirable to many people, and hence a DTT VCR is probably going to be more popular than a DTT DVD recorder. That said, i'm sure a DTT DVD will appear in due course.
Yep - though DVD Writers are plunging in price - and the media is also increasingly cheap. Write once DVD-Rs are available for less than £1 each now - though +/-RWs seem to still go for about £2.50. Still getting cheaper more quickly than VHS tape.
noggin
Founding member
cwathen posted:
Mark Smith posted:
cwathen posted:
Quote:
Daewoo have announced a VHS VCR with an integrated DTT tuner that will be using the 4TV EPG for programming...
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
It's probably down to market demand; DVD recorders still cost a fair old bit, and the media for them is quite expensive compared to tape.
In contrast, even sub-£100 VHS decks are often packed full of features these days (and sub-£50 machines are now a reality), and VHS tape now costs peanuts (I remember in the 80's when my parents used to pay £10.99 for 2 E180 tapes, with inflation that would top £20 these days. In contrast, the local supermarket can often do you 5 E240s for less than a fiver). Whilst the quality is much lower, the cost factor makes it much more desirable to many people, and hence a DTT VCR is probably going to be more popular than a DTT DVD recorder. That said, i'm sure a DTT DVD will appear in due course.
Yep - though DVD Writers are plunging in price - and the media is also increasingly cheap. Write once DVD-Rs are available for less than £1 each now - though +/-RWs seem to still go for about £2.50. Still getting cheaper more quickly than VHS tape.
NG
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
Yes - though the best solution is probably a DVD recorder with integrated hard disc. If you were to record the DTT MPEG2 signal directly to DVD you wouldn't be able to know how much disc space a programme would take easily (as different channels go out at different data rates - some varying as they broadcast) It would be very annoying to only have recorded 80% of a film because there wasn't enough space left on a disc!
With a HD recorder you'd have more space to record on - and then also be able to burn a DVD of the recording knowing how much space it would require. It is also likely that by using a 4x DVD writer you'd be able to copy from the HD to DVD faster than real-time!
The alternative to this is to convert the output of a DTT tuner to analogue and re-encode at a fixed MPEG2 bit rate for DVD recording - but there would be considerable quality loss involved (though you'd be able to chose a recording quality)
Kind of like the difference between Sky+ and Tivo.
noggin
Founding member
Mark Smith posted:
cwathen posted:
Quote:
Daewoo have announced a VHS VCR with an integrated DTT tuner that will be using the 4TV EPG for programming...
About time too. Am I right in thinking that this is the first mainstream consumer VCR with a DTT tuner?
Yes, I think you are. I think a DVD recorder with DTT tuner would make more sense though, but I suppose many people will always be happier with a good ol' VCR.
Yes - though the best solution is probably a DVD recorder with integrated hard disc. If you were to record the DTT MPEG2 signal directly to DVD you wouldn't be able to know how much disc space a programme would take easily (as different channels go out at different data rates - some varying as they broadcast) It would be very annoying to only have recorded 80% of a film because there wasn't enough space left on a disc!
With a HD recorder you'd have more space to record on - and then also be able to burn a DVD of the recording knowing how much space it would require. It is also likely that by using a 4x DVD writer you'd be able to copy from the HD to DVD faster than real-time!
The alternative to this is to convert the output of a DTT tuner to analogue and re-encode at a fixed MPEG2 bit rate for DVD recording - but there would be considerable quality loss involved (though you'd be able to chose a recording quality)
Kind of like the difference between Sky+ and Tivo.