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The 49th Eurovision Song Contest

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deejay
Woody_streatham posted:
deejay posted:
noggin posted:
Woody_streatham posted:
I have a couple of questions. What's in the rules to stop us entering say, George Michael? (aside from the fact that he wouldn't do it.) As last year Russia had Tatu who already had a number 1 single.

And secondly where do all the other broadcasters take comercial breaks? Do they go three hours with no adverts?


There is nothing wrong with entering a well known singer or a song written by someone well known.

Britain has entered Cliff Richard a couple of times, as well as Lulu, Olivia Newton-John (even though she's Australian) - all of whom were pretty successful prior to representing the UK. (Michael Ball wasn't exactly unknown when he was chosen more recently)

Loads of other countries do this (though their artists are less well known internationally) - Alcazar have competed to represent Sweden, and a number of the entrants this year are really popular in their own countries (Finland and Iceland particularly I think?)

As for the ad-breaks - did you not notice the appalling pauses either side of the tedious green-room sequences?

They were opt-out points for breaks I believe - so only countries that didn't show ads saw the green-room coverage I believe?

There have been ad-break opts since Jerusalem in 1999 I think - there was a break half-way through the songs for the hosts to sing - which a couple of countries have done since (Estonia did in 2002 I think)


Yes - Israel 1999 was the first contest to include a commercial break opportunity and there have been increasing numbers of breaks every year since then. The "Green Room" sequences in this year's Semi-Final and Final programmes were when broadcasters that wanted to went to breaks. The cue to opt out and back for the breaks were the full-frame programme logos and stings which preceeded and succeeded the Green Room sequences.


Is the BBC the only country not to have adverts in Europe?


I don't actually know, but I did look at TVEi during one break and they were still with Green Room coverage. Whether that was just the International Channel of course ... TVE (Spain) may well have taken the break.

The BBC is I think the only "state" broadcaster in Europe that doesn't carry commercials.

Does that German broadcaster (ARD?) that used to show all its ads in one half hour chunk still do so?
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Whataday Founding member
Not all the commercial networks opt out for a break during Eurovision, even if they usually show adverts during other programmes. More are doing it now that they allow smoother opt outs.
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benjy
According to my Mum who was in Malta at the weekend, the Eurovision feed she was watching had Terry's commentry! I'm not sure if she was watching it on Maltese TV or BBC Prime, however. She said she didn't know. (!)
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Rangdo
Yay - someone mentioned Alcazar!!! What a fab group.

www.alcazarized.co.uk
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deejay
benjy posted:
According to my Mum who was in Malta at the weekend, the Eurovision feed she was watching had Terry's commentry! I'm not sure if she was watching it on Maltese TV or BBC Prime, however. She said she didn't know. (!)


Probably BBC Prime as that definitely carries Terry's commentary (and indeed usually use his unique style as a selling point!).
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noggin Founding member
chrisb posted:
I used to quite like Alcazar but then they added this extra bloke and sort of ruined things.


I dunno - Alcazarised is, if anything, a better album than Casino. I'm not fussed about the extra bloke to be honest - the music is still fab.

I think they were robbed last year, they should have represented Sweden, not Fame. (They wouldn't have won the competition - but they would have added some high-camp - which was somewhat lacking last year - though not this!)
TI
This Is Granada
Well Eurovision is over but theres the Kids one coming up, but guess what Charles Allen and his big tummy and the ITV Network have gone and done??

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The second edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest will not be organised in Manchester, United Kingdom. British commercial broadcaster ITV abandoned the plans. The European Broadcasting Union is currently discussing the matter

ITV, the British commercial broadcaster who would organise the second edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest in Manchester suddenly abandoned all plans. The reason why is unknown yet.

A new host country will thus have to be chosen. The European Broadcasting Union has not yet made a decision. Croatia, the winner of the 2003 Junior Eurovision Sog Contest could be the substitute host but all possibilities are still open.

Aline Ingwersen, press representative of the EBU, said to esctoday.com: "We are currently discussing the matter concerning the Junior Eurovision Song Contest this year, but no decision has been made yet!"

The 2005 Junior Eurovision Song Contest will be organised in Belgium by Flemish broadcaster VRT and Walloon broadcaster RTBF. •


Why have ITV pulled out? Ant and Dec not willing to do it for them?
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william Founding member
Do we actually know if it will still be *broadcast* in the UK, or will we have to scan the latter regions of the EPG to find a broadcast on a European channel?
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benjy
This Is Granada posted:
Well Eurovision is over but theres the Kids one coming up, but guess what Charles Allen and his big tummy and the ITV Network have gone and done??

Quote:
The second edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest will not be organised in Manchester, United Kingdom. British commercial broadcaster ITV abandoned the plans. The European Broadcasting Union is currently discussing the matter

ITV, the British commercial broadcaster who would organise the second edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest in Manchester suddenly abandoned all plans. The reason why is unknown yet.

A new host country will thus have to be chosen. The European Broadcasting Union has not yet made a decision. Croatia, the winner of the 2003 Junior Eurovision Sog Contest could be the substitute host but all possibilities are still open.

Aline Ingwersen, press representative of the EBU, said to esctoday.com: "We are currently discussing the matter concerning the Junior Eurovision Song Contest this year, but no decision has been made yet!"

The 2005 Junior Eurovision Song Contest will be organised in Belgium by Flemish broadcaster VRT and Walloon broadcaster RTBF. •


Why have ITV pulled out? Ant and Dec not willing to do it for them?


I did actually already mention this way back on page 9, but perhaps this time someone might notice! Smile
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TI
This Is Granada
william posted:
Do we actually know if it will still be *broadcast* in the UK, or will we have to scan the latter regions of the EPG to find a broadcast on a European channel?


I'm sure it will. Its probabily just ITV would rather take part then have to organise such a do.

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