Sadly, C4 appears to have abandoned special Schools presentation and I will be e-mailing them to ask why at some point. As dreadful as the last 4Learning ident was, at least it meant schools TV still had its own presentation. This is just lazy.
I don't really see why they need 'special schools presentation' - BBC2 has always been perfectly ok without it.
It's just another 'it's always been that way so it should always be that way' opinion of yours
Sadly, C4 appears to have abandoned special Schools presentation and I will be e-mailing them to ask why at some point. As dreadful as the last 4Learning ident was, at least it meant schools TV still had its own presentation. This is just lazy.
I don't really see why they need 'special schools presentation' - BBC2 has always been perfectly ok without it.
It's just another 'it's always been that way so it should always be that way' opinion of yours
I dissagree, Special Presentation certainly improves the feel of the station in those hours. I don't really think a selection including a Diner, a UFO and a Bowling Green really fits the Schools TV timeslot properly.
I don't really see why they need 'special schools presentation' - BBC2 has always been perfectly ok without it.
It's just another 'it's always been that way so it should always be that way' opinion of yours
Sounds like you've only ever known BBC2 Schools from the late 80s onwards. Although I lost interest in BBC schools when programmes moved to BBC2, I was pleased that BBC2 was at least making some effort in the period up to April 1986. After that date, my thoughts were pretty much as they are for C4 today.
Remember the presentation is not the most important thing, Channel 4 has to produce these programmes, that aren't cheap to make and they can't really make much money from, so if it is expensive to make a new ident Channel 4 probably won't make one. The money goes back into schools programming, and effectively increases the time space allowed for Schools programmes. If the BBC had seperate presentation for Schools, they'd probably get criticised for wasting the licence fee on something, that could be done with normal presentation.
And TBH the audience it is catered for really couldn't give a sh*t about the presentation, they only watch it as they can tape and it show it to their pupils to educate them, not to please them with a different ident. The BBC having been doing this for 20 years now, Channel 4 have only just started to do so and to be honest I don't see what's wrong. I don't watch Schools programmes as they aren't aimed for me, even if I do, I don't care as long there is an ident before the programme with the announcer telling me what I am going to watch.
If you feel so strongly, e-mail Channel 4 to tell them, but I don't think they would change it, they are a public service reyling on commercials to bring in revenue and are a non profit making organisation, so cuts have to be made where ever possible in order to survive, as said if it proves expensive to make a different ident, then they won't make one.
Can't say I've seen it in recent years but the C4 Schools countdown used to be the bain of teachers lives. 20 odd hyperactive kids saying the numbers aloud. Those were the days.
What has happened to School programmes on Channel 4 recently? They seem to have given up on showing them and just have the same things on every day, and some tv guides dont even list them as being school programmes.
Schools broadcasts are now on Tuesdays 4.00 - 6.00am, Wednesdays 4.00 - 6.00am. However, there haven't been many new series aimed at primary schools hitting the screens over the last 12 - 18 months. Blue Dragon (BAFTA nominated) is a notable exception as well as the under advertised Number Crew - Shape and Space episodes. When the Romans Came to Wales was quite good too, though produced with Wales in mind!
Schools broadcasts are now on Tuesdays 4.00 - 6.00am, Wednesdays 4.00 - 6.00am. However, there haven't been many new series aimed at primary schools hitting the screens over the last 12 - 18 months. Blue Dragon (BAFTA nominated) is a notable exception as well as the under advertised Number Crew - Shape and Space episodes. When the Romans Came to Wales was quite good too, though produced with Wales in mind!
Why have they cut back on the amount of schools broadcasts? It used to be 2 1/2 hours every morning, not cut back to 4am-6am 2 early mornings a week. TBH ive not watched it for years but im suprised to see hardly any of the programmes I remember not being shown.
The programmes have changed, they are usually more aimed for a Secondary school audience, such as the Lecture programmes and some are repeats of Channel 4 programmes such as Bollywood Star or That'll Teach Em. But it's still in it's 9.30am-12.00pm slot for most of the year and two overnight slots per week, now I don't think that's cutting back, as it has been the same for about 10 years or so now.
Most primary schools programmes have disappeared, more of the newer programmes as said are aimed for older children and they aren't 10/15/20 minutes long, some are as long as an hour or so.
Sounds like you've only ever known BBC2 Schools from the late 80s onwards. Although I lost interest in BBC schools when programmes moved to BBC2, I was pleased that BBC2 was at least making some effort in the period up to April 1986. After that date, my thoughts were pretty much as they are for C4 today.
I've known BBC1 and 2 schools since about 1980. In fact I was probably watching them before you were born! 'Special presentation' or not.... it made no diffrence, and the same goes for Channel 4