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3D is it a failing feature?

3D World Cup coverage being questioned. (June 2013)

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DVB Cornwall
Seems FIFA are considering abandoning or major cutbacks to their 2014 World Cup 3D TV plans.

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19-Jun-2013 @ 22:47

Has the format a future apart from Feature Films?
MI
Michael
3D Sport is a breathtaking experience from what those who have experienced it tell me - however their venue wasn't a front room or a pub, it was a cinema, which of course lent itself neatly to the setup. While domestic and pub 3DTV is reliant on glasses and specific angles, it will never be more than an interesting novelty, not least because it immediately ostracises people like me who wear glasses anyway. I feel glasses-based 3DTV will shortly go the way of the MiniDisc and Betamax.
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davidhorman
While domestic and pub 3DTV is reliant on ... specific angles

Is it?

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it immediately ostracises people like me who wear glasses anyway.

How so?
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dbl
ESPN (USA) has shut down their 3D channel because of low ratings

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/espn-shuts-3d-channel-due-ratings-article-1.1371690
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Michael
While domestic and pub 3DTV is reliant on ... specific angles

Is it?


Yup - go more than 30 degrees left or right from dead centre and your brain starts to have trouble decoding the 3D signal correctly; whereas normal TVs can be viewed anything up to and including 80 degrees from the vertical.

This image, for example, comes from a Toshiba 3DTV user guide:
http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/images/articles/Toshiba_55WX800U_3DGlassesViewingAngle.jpg

Some higher end TVs are addressing this problem but these premium models come at a cost probably in excess of the entertainment budget of your average pub landlord.

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Quote:
it immediately ostracises people like me who wear glasses anyway.

How so?

Er, because we have to wear TWO pairs of glasses? Cool Cool And if you wear Osiris frames like me, they don't lend themselves to then slotting a chunky pair of active 3D spex over the top.
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bilky asko
Quote:
it immediately ostracises people like me who wear glasses anyway.

How so?

I think I can provide some sort of answer to that one - I think he is referring to not being able to wear glasses on top of glasses, which I have found to be no problem at all, but may be annoying for those with small noses or huge glasses (or a combination of the two).

Personally, I can't see the 3D effect properly with any of these systems - I wear glasses, but it's not a problem that all people who wear glasses experience.

I've seen 3D at a cinema and in a 4D cinema (both didn't have much 3D depth to them), on an active 3D TV (a bit better depth, but more problems combining the images), and on a cheap passive 3D TV (which didn't seem to work at all).

The best effect I've managed to see is the one on the Nintendo 3DS, simply because the 3D effect seems more pronounced on it. However, the images still don't always combine properly, but it's the best I can get.
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A former member
To get sky 3d for free ,you have to do the top HD package, cutting the cost might help
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thegeek Founding member
To get sky 3d for free ,you have to do the top HD package, cutting the cost might help


Presumably the extra cost is so Sky can recoup the investment in equipment for broadcasting 3D.

I've not really had the opportunity to watch much 3D TV. I did see some at the Olympics in the OBS theatre, and wasn't blown away - perhaps it's because I saw the diving, which I don't have much interest in. (I was more impressed when I tried it on the telly in the BBC office, and it looked like Sue Barker actually passed in front of the screen - but that was just because she was walking past on her way to make a cup of tea. True story.)

I think the main problem with it is that the brain can't cope with 3D pictures chopping and changing between different camera angles too often - I'm not sure if the coverage seems less interesting as a result.

The other technology demonstrated in the OBS theatre, Super Hi Vision, probably has more of a future. Obviously not in its current form - the TV they were using was probably about the size of my living room wall - but certainly as a proof of concept.
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davidhorman

Yup - go more than 30 degrees left or right from dead centre and your brain starts to have trouble decoding the 3D signal correctly; whereas normal TVs can be viewed anything up to and including 80 degrees from the vertical.

Ah, I see now. When you're at that kind of angle the screen is no longer a rectangle (in your field of view) but (at best) a trapezoid. Things that used to be on the same horizontal line in your field of view (like the separate left-and-right positions of an object in a 3D scene) may not be horizontal with each other any more, so your brain will ache. Easily solved by sitting an infinite distance from the screen!
MI
Michael

Yup - go more than 30 degrees left or right from dead centre and your brain starts to have trouble decoding the 3D signal correctly; whereas normal TVs can be viewed anything up to and including 80 degrees from the vertical.

Ah, I see now. When you're at that kind of angle the screen is no longer a rectangle (in your field of view) but (at best) a trapezoid. Things that used to be on the same horizontal line in your field of view (like the separate left-and-right positions of an object in a 3D scene) may not be horizontal with each other any more, so your brain will ache. Easily solved by sitting an infinite distance from the screen!


Yeah..... what you said. Embarassed

Given the relative topography of many pubs, it's not always possible for people to sit/stand within that 30 degree angle.

Also, how do you get 100+ pissed up football fans to wear expensive glasses (that add £3 to a cinema ticket price after all!) and not break / steal them?
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WillPS
Exactly the same way the Cinema do
DO
dosxuk
The venue we put 3D TVs into used passive glasses, which cost the venue about 15p each when bought in bulk. They were sold for £1 and you got to keep them, break them and you have to buy another. The positioning of the TVs also meant that everyone who wanted to watch them was able to do so from within a 30º angle.

None of these "issues" took more than a few minutes to solve in the planning stages of the install.

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