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Why were the '2's brought back?

(August 2014)

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CR
Critique
JasonB posted:
The main BBC 2 thread has been locked now but forum favorite Callum Precious claims that he's been working on "new ident's" for next year over on Digital Spy:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2007155

It's turned out to be a mock.


Hmm, did he run a pres site here for a while that was just captures from TV Live or something? I note that on his YouTube channel everything is written as if it's official, including the announcement of his new BBC Two idents, which he did indeed seem to be claiming were real. The last line of the description read this:

Quote:
Subscribe, comment and like. don't forget. Tell the BBC, TV Forum and other public UK sources immediately (except for TV Live and Rob Francis because it's private).


Firstly, why would you need to tell the BBC that they were having a rebrand? Secondly, if it's private why are you telling everyone?
EL
elmarko
It's really weird how obsessive people get with their TV branding role play.
CH
chris
Inspector Sands posted:
chris posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
EDIT: incidently there was an alternative concept in Lambie Nairns book and it was dreadful


Not going to leave us in suspense are you? Laughing

Sorry, it seems I was!

An early idea was 'ONE' with a globe in the O


Oh wow. How uninspiring.
DE
deejay
I've posted this before I think, but actually, when you think about it, a globe is a bizarre "symbol" for BBC One. It's almost pompous, as if to say, 'we're the only broadcaster worth talking about in the whole world'. IMO globes make relatively good motifs within news title sequences (and lots of broadcasters have used globes in their news programmes over the years including the BBC) but for a TV channel? And a TV channel based in a small country at that?

Devils Advocate or what?! (Retreats and awaits backlash...)
SF
Shane Forster
deejay posted:
I've posted this before I think, but actually, when you think about it, a globe is a bizarre "symbol" for BBC One. It's almost pompous, as if to say, 'we're the only broadcaster worth talking about in the whole world'. IMO globes make relatively good motifs within news title sequences (and lots of broadcasters have used globes in their news programmes over the years including the BBC) but for a TV channel? And a TV channel based in a small country at that?

Devils Advocate or what?! (Retreats and awaits backlash...)


Yes, it didn't match the channel at all. I disliked the whole colour scheme, too. There was something morbid about the channel.
ET
ETP1 Forever
Shane Forster posted:
deejay posted:
I've posted this before I think, but actually, when you think about it, a globe is a bizarre "symbol" for BBC One. It's almost pompous, as if to say, 'we're the only broadcaster worth talking about in the whole world'. IMO globes make relatively good motifs within news title sequences (and lots of broadcasters have used globes in their news programmes over the years including the BBC) but for a TV channel? And a TV channel based in a small country at that?

Devils Advocate or what?! (Retreats and awaits backlash...)


Yes, it didn't match the channel at all. I disliked the whole colour scheme, too. There was something morbid about the channel.

Which particular incarnation of the globe are you referring to?
JC
JCB
In retrospect of course the globe was a tad pompous but few, if indeed anybody at all, cared because when all is said and done the BBC is lovably pompous. It's when they consciously try to break free from this stuffy "auntie beeb" image that they clumsily trip up. Hence the thoroughly modern & all inclusive dance idents drew far more derision in just 4 years than the pompous globe did over it's 40 year run.
MK
Mr Kite
The globe had always been there, for most of us at least, for didn't seem out of place at all at the time and wouldn't today if it had never gone away. It's kind of like the Coronation Street theme; old-fashioned but never gone away so still seems normal.

One problem with the globe is how to work it into a variety of different idents, which is standard fare for TV presentation these days, rather than just one silent ident. The balloon was an ingenius way of doing this but it's not easy to think up such things.
CH
chris
Mr Kite posted:
The globe had always been there, for most of us at least, for didn't seem out of place at all at the time and wouldn't today if it had never gone away. It's kind of like the Coronation Street theme; old-fashioned but never gone away so still seems normal.

One problem with the globe is how to work it into a variety of different idents, which is standard fare for TV presentation these days, rather than just one silent ident. The balloon was an ingenius way of doing this but it's not easy to think up such things.


Did people really notice that the balloon was also a globe? I always felt it was relatively difficult to decipher what with all the clouds.
MK
Mr Kite
It was a balloon, first and foremost. I'm guessing the very young who never remembered pre-1997 gave little thought to it.

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