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26th Anniversary of the biggest shake up in ITV

Formerly 25th Anniversary (December 2017)

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A former member
What are you on about? If its about news.. I'm sorry to say in 2005 ITN held the responsibility for Carlton and LWT news operations, after taking control in 2004.
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Inspector Sands
And the tinfoil hats belong over there at Digital Spy....
TedJrr, Steve Williams and UKnews gave kudos
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TedJrr
Riaz posted:


One good thing about previous ITV franchise rounds is that it kept ITV companies on their toes. .....//......(current situation)..... results in an almost pot luck situation where whatever happens at renewal time is decided almost by the whims and attitudes of whoever is Secretary of State for DCMS so it can also reduce the incentive to excel.


Possibly the licensing regime needs a big refresh.

The only services at issue are the PSBs. Perhaps each channel with a low epg number and PSB mux carriage rights should have a single licence, arrived at by they having to bid based on what elements of PSB servive they'd maintain. ITV gets its regulatory street vred by doing local news, but others may offer to as well?

The PSB slots in question are:

C3 - currently ITV and STV. Difficult to see a replacement over-reacght to be ing their PSB cover given ITV's commitment to local news. But the threat would keep them focused.

C4 (perhaps ignore for now - anyway no fully commercial organisation would ever meet their remit, a Scott Trust type body might one day)

C5 - Ought to be challengable by someone offering something including an element of local service

C6 - ITV-2, If they had to re-bid separately for this someone could overcome inertia by loading-in PSB type elements into a bid.

C7 - The "locals" ah! So, perhaps if this were bid as a network or a conceptual vision for how it could have been done better? Well, the epg number has to be worth something. Perhaps the winner would get carriage on a PSB mux, swapping out the COMUX components for use as "regional correctors" for use across all the PSBs (inc the BBC)..

C8 - C4's alternative in Wales, Alba in Scotland and ought to be TG4 in NI. Is the slot worth licencing in England though?

C9 - I wonder if they'll ever be one?
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Riaz
Possibly the licensing regime needs a big refresh.


I certainly think that a lot of questions need to be asked, and answered, about the future of the non-BBC PSB channels in the digital era. The analogue switchoff combined with on-demand and internet TV has changed the terrain dramatically since the early 2000s.
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A former member
Can you believe its been 26 years since the biggest overhaul in ITV history: Im sure we have been here before.
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JamesM0984
It feels like only a year ago we had this conversation.
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Markymark

The Hannington news opt possibly used one of the Southampton pres suites later (when that started in 1988) ?


I hadn't realised TVS split Hannington for News in the latter part of its tenure.

As you describe it as an opt (which were a bit unusual for ITV) was it an opt-out during Coast to Coast from Southampton ?


Yes, started on Dec 12th 1988, (the day of the Clapham Rail crash, total co-incidence)

It was a five minute opt-out within Coast to Coast (as mentioned thrown to from a DVE image of both presenters)

The 22:30 weekday bulletin was completely separate. Also there was a local arts show that had a separate
'what's on' segment. Probably that was a three way split ? Split ads for Hannington also came in at the same time too, if not a few weeks prior to Dec 12th ?

Edit: Additional. Heathfield also had a similar opt out from Maidstone's Coast to Coast programme. How did that work ?


And here is a screen shot of that Heathfield opt from summer 1991, sent to me by someone who has been following this thread. A young Philip Hornby I think, and interesting there's a left hand cue dot ?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8ilo0dbj153ku3/heathfield.png?dl=0
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robertclark125
Where else did TVS have news offices, apart from Southampton, Maidstone, and London? Could it be that these opt outs were done from the news offices?
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Markymark
Where else did TVS have news offices, apart from Southampton, Maidstone, and London? Could it be that these opt outs were done from the news offices?


I think the Heathfield opt must have been presented from Maidstone, I just wonder what the studio and playout arrangements were ?
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dazza1976
Where else did TVS have news offices, apart from Southampton, Maidstone, and London? Could it be that these opt outs were done from the news offices?


I think the Heathfield opt must have been presented from Maidstone, I just wonder what the studio and playout arrangements were ?


Yes, that is definitely a young Phil Hornby. Thank you for posting the picture, never saw the opt-out at the time as I received the main Maidstone programme.

That looks like the small studio used for the short TVS News bulletins, just with different signage?

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