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26th Anniversary of the biggest shake up in ITV

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ttt
In 2018 I have seen quite a few people refer to the soaps as examples of public service broadcasting.

While I don't agree that they are 'pap', how times change.
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Night Thoughts
ttt posted:
In 2018 I have seen quite a few people refer to the soaps as examples of public service broadcasting.

While I don't agree that they are 'pap', how times change.


Well, soaps can be a valuable vehicle for public health messages...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-42922999
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Home and away did that story line back in the 90s!
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Araminta Kane
Needless to say, nothing remotely like Ann Clwyd's attacks on multiple ITV companies emerged from the Labour Party after Tony Blair became leader the following year (and this hasn't changed back: even the present Labour leadership adheres to policies on broadcasting and media which would once have been considered the stuff of the Mont Pelerin Society - in this respect, the apparent rebirth of socialism is, if judged by the criteria of Attlee and the Arts Council and the Third Programme, a complete and utter red herring). Indeed, when Blair said that he "almost stood outside the Labour Party and looked at it and thought: if I were* an ordinary person looking at British politics, how would I want the party to develop?", there is no argument at all that the acceptance of deregulated commercial broadcasting was a big part of what he had in mind.

Agreed that it would be wholly unthinkable for the Times to run an article like the Alan Hamilton one now. It's become much more in line with everything else associated with it, to say the very least.

For those remotely interested, the Earl of Stockton who wrote that letter to the Times was Harold Macmillan's grandson, who inherited the title directly as the former PM's only son, who was also an MP, had died young; the grandson was never an MP but was later a Conservative MEP in my own region, in line with his grandfather's initially and indeed ultimately thwarted ambitions for Britain (Stockton was of course Macmillan's first constituency and, thus, a central site in the development of One Nation Conservatism and the aristocratic social conscience: for those even more remotely interested, last year the Tories lost their seat in Stockton but gained another seat elsewhere on Teesside).

*Actually I am pretty certain he said "if I was", being a semi-literate media creation, but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt here
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Araminta Kane
An archive I neglected to explore when this thread was active originally, despite having access to it, was that of the Guardian: here's their editorial from 17th October 1991 - http://www.mediafire.com/file/vbvwwyq7g2857oe/Guardian+17.10.1991.pdf (note that they suggest that the instability had partially been engineered for Sky to exploit)
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The other big changes was the less reliance on US Dramas, thats not to say there didn't have any; I do wonder who it was within ITV to push them out? Im not sure there got pushed out completely it just peak time was free from anything outside of the uk. ?

Drames:
* Baywatch was kept, but of course LWT paid for it to be made.
* Murder she wrote S8 lasted the Saturday evening disappearing to daytime
* LA Law kept the thursday slot for S6 but again S7 and S8 went to Channel 4.
* DR Quin and Touch by an Angle both got the sunday God slot but soon got moved to off peak regionals.

Of course we had Nash bridge in early 00s, Team knightreader at the weekends etc.

Was it just push for more uk content or just a lack of room because of all the commitments promised.
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JAS84

Why is the TSW logo orange there? It's supposed to be green.
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Whataday Founding member
The other big changes was the less reliance on US Dramas, thats not to say there didn't have any; I do wonder who it was within ITV to push them out? Im not sure there got pushed out completely it just peak time was free from anything outside of the uk. ?

Drames:
* Baywatch was kept, but of course LWT paid for it to be made.
* Murder she wrote S8 lasted the Saturday evening disappearing to daytime
* LA Law kept the thursday slot for S6 but again S7 and S8 went to Channel 4.
* DR Quin and Touch by an Angle both got the sunday God slot but soon got moved to off peak regionals.

Of course we had Nash bridge in early 00s, Team knightreader at the weekends etc.

Was it just push for more uk content or just a lack of room because of all the commitments promised.


Well, "Cheap American Imports" was a stick ITV used to bash Sky for many years. It would have looked odd for them to have bought loads in while doing that. Also, producing their own high quality content was something ITV could do, that Sky couldn't. It was ITV's USP against the thread of multi-channel TV.

So Sky got the imports with Channel 4 picking up the repeat runs (something C4 needed considering they had to fund themselves from 93)

During the 90s there was quite a trend for the ITV companies making their own versions of American shows such as The Upper Hand, Brighton Belles and Married For Life. I might be wrong but I think the last of these was Days Like These, a Britcom version of That 70s Show which died on its arse.
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james-2001
The Brighton Belles and Married For Life died on their arses too!
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Who made all three of those sitcom?........ Was was the US version of the upper hand? mind you that lasted 6 years? The problem with Days Like These, apart from it being crap was it was completely unrealistic... unlike the next 1970s sitcom The Grimleys which was more real about the problems with the 70s, and hasn't been repeated has it ?

To be fair.. ITV had Baywatch, but that wasn't cheap was it? I dont think MSW was either. Step by step was used for summer holls, Veronica closet was given peak slot but moved, Im sure there was one other US sitcom that also tried but failed?
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Brekkie
The Upper Hand seemed to run for years .

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