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Presentation Thread (May 2018)

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JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Can anyone hear some strange faint echo on the ITV audio or is it just me? I think it was present yesterday as well.
BR
Brekkie
Can anyone hear some strange faint echo on the ITV audio or is it just me? I think it was present yesterday as well.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Can anyone hear some strange faint echo on the ITV audio or is it just me? I think it was present yesterday as well.


Hmm....
NG
noggin Founding member
Is the delay on BT UHD matches as large as the World Cup one?

We have a monitor showing the same match in HD, via the Sky platform and a local IPTV system, and a UHD TV on the BT TV system, and they're more or less in sync. So maybe a second or so compared to HD.


I think the point was in reference to the BBC UHD iPlayer feed delay, and whether UHD BT TV is as delayed, which I don't think it is due to the very different delivery methods?
NG
noggin Founding member
Not a huge fan of the ITV set. It's very, very busy. The virtual roof and windows in the roof is clever (I assume it's a locked off UHD camera on the outside of the studio that is then processed by the AR kit to track motion)

However the mix of white painted brick (which is a bit too bright), the very busy floor, and a desk that is also very busy, is just all a bit too much. What are the point of the lights? It's all a bit of a visual mishmash.

The BBC's set looks a lot cleaner and simpler. The virtual ceiling is so neat you don't realise it's not really there, and the downstage 'screen' masking all the cameras is very neat. The way they hand to the match via that screen is very neat, and the graphics overlaid work very nicely.

The BBC seem to have thought a bit more about how their AR additions can be used to integrate into production, not just as a bit of flashy 'just because you can' set.
NG
noggin Founding member
All that said - the 'fill the studio with the stadium trick is very neat'. As the rear window is real, I wonder how they are generating a key for the stadium shot ? I'm guesssing a panel or a blind with a chroma-key colour on it?
Last edited by noggin on 17 June 2018 2:43pm
BM
BM11
The side windows were very blury this afternoon - looked clearly a screen - and like a webcam or CCTV image. No details could be noticed in the close up of a pundits face.
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Here is an article about ITV's 'Cathedral of Football' Very Happy
https://www.creativereview.co.uk/itv-world-cup-studio-design/

It's usually interesting to see the broadcasters come up with something that's reflective of the locale and incorporate some more interesting design elements into the set for the World Cup. Both ITV and the BBC used to do this.

Here, the BBC is very slick, clean and simple, but it's like the Match of the Day studio dropped into Red Square. And that's how its been for quite some time now for these big events. The 'BBC' brand is at the fore rather than studio designs being more reflective of the event.

ITV perhaps have overdone it, but it's visually interesting for a one off event like the World Cup.
Brekkie and ethanh05 gave kudos
NG
noggin Founding member
Here is an article about ITV's 'Cathedral of Football' Very Happy
https://www.creativereview.co.uk/itv-world-cup-studio-design/

It's usually interesting to see the broadcasters come up with something that's reflective of the locale and incorporate some more interesting design elements into the set for the World Cup. Both ITV and the BBC used to do this.

Here, the BBC is very slick, clean and simple, but it's like the Match of the Day studio dropped into Red Square. And that's how its been for quite some time now for these big events. The 'BBC' brand is at the fore rather than studio designs being more reflective of the event.

ITV perhaps have overdone it, but it's visually interesting for a one off event like the World Cup.


I think the big difference is that BBC Sport and BBC football programmes have a strong visual brand identity. The BBC understandably have gone with this - and delivered a really clean, classy and very smart studio.

ITV Sport and ITV football have nowhere near that level of branding - so can create their own bespoke stuff for each event. I'm not sure I see the 'X Factor' influences, and whilst I like the thinking behind it, and applaud that, I think the actual set design doesn't deliver in the same way the technology does. It's just not a design I particularly like, and I'm not sure they are using the AR production elements in as 'joined up' a way as the BBC do.
BK
bkman1990
Stephen Alkin from RTÉ Sport had mentioned before the start of the Germany v Mexico match that some Mexican fans received minor injuries at an incident near Red Square in Moscow. The incident being reported was that a Moscow Taxi driver feel asleep at the wheel & knocked down pedestrians while he was working a 20 hour shift in his taxi. Russian Media reports say that at least 7 people were injured in the incident. They were taking photos of The Kremlin before they got run over by the driver who is from Kyrgyzstan.

What an awful incident. Get well soon to all those injured.

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0616/970992-moscow-taxi/

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0617/971101-moscow-taxi-incident/
Last edited by bkman1990 on 17 June 2018 4:18pm - 6 times in total
BR
Brekkie
Back to the presentation and BBC Sport have been using AR as standard now for years and quite successfully. I might be wrong but this is the first time I recall ITV Sport using it - and it seems they've gone all out.
DV
DVB Cornwall
First 'Breakdown' of the UHD feed just before HT in GER MEX. Feed stopped. Seems from Twitter that it was widespread.

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