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2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Presentation Thread (May 2018)

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AN
Andrew Founding member
The ITV set almost looks like an American set, ridiculously busy on the wide shots.

The BBC have obviously stayed more on brand, looking like it’s from the same family as the MOTD set

The virtual bit opposite the set on the BBC has little purpose though, as it’s rarely seen
NG
noggin Founding member
UKnews posted:
I’d read the BBC studio was going to be upscaled. If it is it’s fooling me, looks native 4K.


Suspect they are UHD cameras running in HD and then upscaled to UHD - which will look very good because of sensor oversampling. Looked like it was a good HD to UHD upscale to me on the AR graphics.
UK
UKnews
noggin posted:
UKnews posted:
The 4K HLG HDR- wow! At its best it’s like the demo material you’d see in shops. Being 50p is really helping the motion as well.


To be fair - normal iPlayer HD is 50p already. The BBC has had 720p50 SDR on iPlayer for about 3 years now.

True, but it’s still 50i derived, where as this is 50p native, wouldn’t that make a difference?
HA
harshy Founding member
noggin posted:
UKnews posted:
I’d read the BBC studio was going to be upscaled. If it is it’s fooling me, looks native 4K.


Suspect they are UHD cameras running in HD and then upscaled to UHD - which will look very good because of sensor oversampling. Looked like it was a good HD to UHD upscale to me on the AR graphics.

I don’t understand why run UHD cameras down to HD?
NE
Newsroom24
Nice studio from the BBC, modern but fresh. I also really like the simple but modern graphics that they have been using - very impressed.
BM
BM11
I presume ITV window is not an actual window but a live screen because it turns into the VR of the stadium.
NG
noggin Founding member
BM11 posted:
I presume ITV window is not an actual window but a live screen because it turns into the VR of the stadium.


It's both. The studio is next door to the BBC. Window behind presenters and guests is real. Both the BBC and ITV have AR roof elements. BBC's is subtle, ITV's isn't and has a live camera creating a fake window above the real one.
NG
noggin Founding member
UKnews posted:
noggin posted:
UKnews posted:
The 4K HLG HDR- wow! At its best it’s like the demo material you’d see in shops. Being 50p is really helping the motion as well.


To be fair - normal iPlayer HD is 50p already. The BBC has had 720p50 SDR on iPlayer for about 3 years now.

True, but it’s still 50i derived, where as this is 50p native, wouldn’t that make a difference?


Not in motion terms - 1080i25 is equivalent to 540p50 on high motion. You still get full 50Hz motion.
NG
noggin Founding member
harshy posted:
noggin posted:
UKnews posted:
I’d read the BBC studio was going to be upscaled. If it is it’s fooling me, looks native 4K.


Suspect they are UHD cameras running in HD and then upscaled to UHD - which will look very good because of sensor oversampling. Looked like it was a good HD to UHD upscale to me on the AR graphics.

I don’t understand why run UHD cameras down to HD?


Lots of reasons. The primary outlet is HD, the Viz AR graphics may be HD, HD is simpler and more reliable. Lots of reasons. UHD cameras running in HD is standard (All the shows out of TC1 for instance)
NG
noggin Founding member
Andrew posted:
The ITV set almost looks like an American set, ridiculously busy on the wide shots.

The BBC have obviously stayed more on brand, looking like it’s from the same family as the MOTD set

The virtual bit opposite the set on the BBC has little purpose though, as it’s rarely seen


I think they are using that effectively - nice way of handing to the match, and doing team formations etc.
gordonthegopher and UKnews gave kudos
BM
BM11
Was today historic in World Cup broadcasting in the UK in more than one way? Obviously the first two Ultra HD matches but also I think the first time a female pundit appeared as a main studio guest and female commentator heard commentating on a match- albeit in highlights form?
TL
toby lerone 2016
BM11 posted:
Was today historic in World Cup broadcasting in the UK in more than one way? Obviously the first two Ultra HD matches but also I think the first time a female pundit appeared as a main studio guest and female commentator heard commentating on a match- albeit in highlights form?


Vicki Sparks is down to do a live match between Portugal and Morocco on Wednesday night so it will be a first live outing for a woman on a men's match as far as I am aware.

RTE had a couple of firsts today, the first time they had a female presenter on a World Cup match (Jacqui Hurley) and the first time they had a female pundit on a World Cup match (Stephanie Roche). Joanne Cantwell has presented Champions League and Pro14 rugby for RTE before but first time on the World Cup.

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