JA
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
If you're talking about Ortis, he had come from Live and Kicking so should have been expected to be a safe pair of hands on live TV. He's been a Gadget Show regular since.
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
DV
More tonight from Dan Roan ,,,,
IPC holds "productive" meetings with Rio & Brazil officials over Paralympics funding crisis but admits situation "pretty precarious"
"Regrettably, if no more funding is available, the Organising Cttee’s additional cuts will start to impact on services offered to athletes"
and this ....
IPC holds "productive" meetings with Rio & Brazil officials over Paralympics funding crisis but admits situation "pretty precarious"
"Regrettably, if no more funding is available, the Organising Cttee’s additional cuts will start to impact on services offered to athletes"
and this ....
Financial situation for Rio 2016 Paralympics remains "precarious" warns IPC President -> https://t.co/lf3l8fwGFh
— Paralympic Games (@Paralympics) August 15, 2016
DV
and now the grim reality
Rio 2016 confirm only 12% of available tickets for Paralympics have been sold. "It is a concern."
— Ben Rumsby (@ben_rumsby) August 17, 2016
HC
"concern"
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
SP
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
True, although sports broadcasting is often more like continuity announcing, and I think Ortis did a stint on CBBC too, so he shouldn't have been as poor as he was, on paper.
If you're talking about Ortis, he had come from Live and Kicking so should have been expected to be a safe pair of hands on live TV. He's been a Gadget Show regular since.
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
True, although sports broadcasting is often more like continuity announcing, and I think Ortis did a stint on CBBC too, so he shouldn't have been as poor as he was, on paper.
CW
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
True, although sports broadcasting is often more like continuity announcing, and I think Ortis did a stint on CBBC too, so he shouldn't have been as poor as he was, on paper.
He also used to present CBBC's Short Change series, which from memory were on Sunday's. (I may be going off-topic.)
Charlie Wells
Moderator
If you're talking about Ortis, he had come from Live and Kicking so should have been expected to be a safe pair of hands on live TV. He's been a Gadget Show regular since.
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
True, although sports broadcasting is often more like continuity announcing, and I think Ortis did a stint on CBBC too, so he shouldn't have been as poor as he was, on paper.
He also used to present CBBC's Short Change series, which from memory were on Sunday's. (I may be going off-topic.)
NG
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
True, although sports broadcasting is often more like continuity announcing, and I think Ortis did a stint on CBBC too, so he shouldn't have been as poor as he was, on paper.
What makes you think sports presentation is like continuity announcing? It really isn't that comparable.
They are both skilled roles, but just because both of them appear to involve linking between things, that doesn't mean they have the same skill set. In many ways sports presentation is more like news presentation, though often without the benefit of a prompt (and in many cases with just a running order and not a script.)
noggin
Founding member
If you're talking about Ortis, he had come from Live and Kicking so should have been expected to be a safe pair of hands on live TV. He's been a Gadget Show regular since.
I imagine Live & Kicking, which was quite structured, is quite different to a live sports broadcast though!
True, although sports broadcasting is often more like continuity announcing, and I think Ortis did a stint on CBBC too, so he shouldn't have been as poor as he was, on paper.
What makes you think sports presentation is like continuity announcing? It really isn't that comparable.
They are both skilled roles, but just because both of them appear to involve linking between things, that doesn't mean they have the same skill set. In many ways sports presentation is more like news presentation, though often without the benefit of a prompt (and in many cases with just a running order and not a script.)
JO
You're forgetting one important thing, which is we are rich country, Brazil is poor. You couldn't exactly mirror the pricing strategy and hope for exactly the same effect. In fact I'd be quite surprised if they had a totally different strategy towards ticketing than 2012.
It might just simply be the case the desire isn't there to go and watch the wheelchair 400m final in Brazil or people don't have enough free time or disposable income.
"concern"
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
You're forgetting one important thing, which is we are rich country, Brazil is poor. You couldn't exactly mirror the pricing strategy and hope for exactly the same effect. In fact I'd be quite surprised if they had a totally different strategy towards ticketing than 2012.
It might just simply be the case the desire isn't there to go and watch the wheelchair 400m final in Brazil or people don't have enough free time or disposable income.
Last edited by Jon on 18 August 2016 3:48pm
GE
You're forgetting one important thing, which is we are rich countryl, Brazil is poor. You couldn't exactly mirror the pricing strategy and hope for exactly the same effect. In fact I'd be quite surprised if they had a totally different strategy towards ticketing than 2012.
It might just simply be the case the desire isn't there to go and watch the wheelchair 400m final in Brazil or people don't have enough free time of disposable income.
I think the money issue is the main factor. A large chunk of the Brazilian people simply can't afford the luxury of going to watch sporting events - especially when it comes to sports which they don't have a huge passion for. Which, lets face it, is everything bar football and beach volleyball.
One very noticeable thing today is that there are huge crowds for the men's triathlon - spectactors lining every part of the course, sometimes 4 or 5 deep. Matt Chilton commented that its probably the best-supported event in the Olympics so far. And of course - which the exception of the grandstand seating - is absolutely free.
"concern"
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
You're forgetting one important thing, which is we are rich countryl, Brazil is poor. You couldn't exactly mirror the pricing strategy and hope for exactly the same effect. In fact I'd be quite surprised if they had a totally different strategy towards ticketing than 2012.
It might just simply be the case the desire isn't there to go and watch the wheelchair 400m final in Brazil or people don't have enough free time of disposable income.
I think the money issue is the main factor. A large chunk of the Brazilian people simply can't afford the luxury of going to watch sporting events - especially when it comes to sports which they don't have a huge passion for. Which, lets face it, is everything bar football and beach volleyball.
One very noticeable thing today is that there are huge crowds for the men's triathlon - spectactors lining every part of the course, sometimes 4 or 5 deep. Matt Chilton commented that its probably the best-supported event in the Olympics so far. And of course - which the exception of the grandstand seating - is absolutely free.
NG
You're forgetting one important thing, which is we are rich countryl, Brazil is poor. You couldn't exactly mirror the pricing strategy and hope for exactly the same effect. In fact I'd be quite surprised if they had a totally different strategy towards ticketing than 2012.
It might just simply be the case the desire isn't there to go and watch the wheelchair 400m final in Brazil or people don't have enough free time of disposable income.
I think the money issue is the main factor. A large chunk of the Brazilian people simply can't afford the luxury of going to watch sporting events - especially when it comes to sports which they don't have a huge passion for. Which, lets face it, is everything bar football and beach volleyball.
One very noticeable thing today is that there are huge crowds for the men's triathlon - spectactors lining every part of the course, sometimes 4 or 5 deep. Matt Chilton commented that its probably the best-supported event in the Olympics so far. And of course - which the exception of the grandstand seating - is absolutely free.
Yep. Nail on the head. Think we sometimes forget quite how well-off as a country the UK is (in comparison to most others)
noggin
Founding member
"concern"
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
Gold medal for the Rio 2016 organizers in understatment, there.
London 2012 had the right idea. Little things like a £10 day pass onto the Olympic Park, just to walk around, watch the sports on the big screens, and soak up the atmosphere. Yes, some would argue it was a 'second chance', but it filled up the park for a second time within 2 months, and was a spotlight for the Paralympic games movement.
They did a £20 day pass in the Excel Cenre as well, where several indoor sports were taking place at the same time - and I was lucky to go and 'hop' from arena to arena, sport to sport. By 1pm there were queues to get into the fencing and floor ball sports. The atmosphere talking to someone next to me in the break between matches he said was exactly the same as the Olympics, with the partizan home crowd cheering Team GB athletes, and if there was no home competitior - the underdog.
All affordable (as some prices in the Olympic ticket lottery were, frankly, stupid) day out at a once in a lifetime sporting event.
Me thinks, this isn't been done in Rio this time around.
You're forgetting one important thing, which is we are rich countryl, Brazil is poor. You couldn't exactly mirror the pricing strategy and hope for exactly the same effect. In fact I'd be quite surprised if they had a totally different strategy towards ticketing than 2012.
It might just simply be the case the desire isn't there to go and watch the wheelchair 400m final in Brazil or people don't have enough free time of disposable income.
I think the money issue is the main factor. A large chunk of the Brazilian people simply can't afford the luxury of going to watch sporting events - especially when it comes to sports which they don't have a huge passion for. Which, lets face it, is everything bar football and beach volleyball.
One very noticeable thing today is that there are huge crowds for the men's triathlon - spectactors lining every part of the course, sometimes 4 or 5 deep. Matt Chilton commented that its probably the best-supported event in the Olympics so far. And of course - which the exception of the grandstand seating - is absolutely free.
Yep. Nail on the head. Think we sometimes forget quite how well-off as a country the UK is (in comparison to most others)