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2015 leaders' debates confirmed

(February 2015)

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Cameron may have got his own way, but all the way through this I've thought he's had a very valid point that he hasn't made clearly enough. Broadcasters wanted to shoehorn Nigel Farage in as a contender on a par with Cameron, Milliband and Clegg. That simply isn't the case, and UKIP are far more comparable to the Greens.
The broadcasters basically wanted Farage to add value (and therefore ratings) to the programmes.

Ofcom were the ones who declared UKIP a major party. Considering the high likelihood of a hung parliament after the vote, smaller parties are of greater importance than they would be otherwise.

"Smaller parties" yes, but why are UKIP so special when the Green Party could have near enough the same amount of MPs and SNP will have many times more?

Because the SNP cannot be voted for by ~90% of the electorate, and because UKIP gained significant amount of votes in the EU elections.

So that's an entirely different reason to the one you gave regarding smaller parties making all the difference in this election.
The first time ever that the European Elections have been used as an indicator of how people will vote in the General Election surely.


The tories win the most votes in 1984, and won again in UK wide in 87.
Labour swept the broads in 1994 and won in the UK in 97.
The tories come top in 2009..
CH
chris
Cameron may have got his own way, but all the way through this I've thought he's had a very valid point that he hasn't made clearly enough. Broadcasters wanted to shoehorn Nigel Farage in as a contender on a par with Cameron, Milliband and Clegg. That simply isn't the case, and UKIP are far more comparable to the Greens.
The broadcasters basically wanted Farage to add value (and therefore ratings) to the programmes.

Ofcom were the ones who declared UKIP a major party. Considering the high likelihood of a hung parliament after the vote, smaller parties are of greater importance than they would be otherwise.

"Smaller parties" yes, but why are UKIP so special when the Green Party could have near enough the same amount of MPs and SNP will have many times more?

Because the SNP cannot be voted for by ~90% of the electorate, and because UKIP gained significant amount of votes in the EU elections.

So that's an entirely different reason to the one you gave regarding smaller parties making all the difference in this election.
The first time ever that the European Elections have been used as an indicator of how people will vote in the General Election surely.


The tories win the most votes in 1984, and won again in UK wide in 87.
Labour swept the broads in 1994 and won in the UK in 97.
The tories come top in 2009..


I do think it's a little bit different this time though - people are much more likely to vote for the smaller parties in locals and Euros than in the General Election.

That said, regardless of the number of seats, UKIP are polling at 15% of the national vote and Lib Dems around 8%. Surely then they should be deemed a major party? Not UKIP's fault our system isn't proportional.
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Asa Admin
No point having two separate threads so please continue in The Newsroom topic.

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