TV Home Forum

2004 Eurovision Song Contest

Yes, it's official because I say so (January 2004)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
IS
Isonstine Founding member
Well following on from my own post (which followed on from noggin's!) in the World Idol thread, I felt compelled to create a thread about the 2004 Eurovision Song Contest.

According to the details so far, 36 countries will be taking part in the contest. Of these, 14 have already secured entry to the grand final.

They are Turkey (TRT) - the host of this year's contest of course. The 'big four' - France (FR3), Germany (ARD), Spain (TVE) and the United Kingdom (BBC).

Also, the 9 highest scorers (It's officially 10 - but of course the host is always going to be number 1!) from last years contest are guarenteed entry, which are Austria (ORF), Belgium (RTBF), Iceland (RUV), Ireland (RTE), Norway (NRK), Poland (TVP), Romania (TVR), Russia (C1R) and Sweden (SVT).

Finally, another 10 countries that will take part in the qualifying round will be chosen from Albania (RTVSH), Andorra (RTVA), Belarus (BTRC), Bosnia & Herzegovina (RTVBH), Cyprus (CBC), Croatia (HRT), Denmark (DR), Estonia (ETV), Finland (YLE), FYR Macedonia (MKRTV), Greece (ERT), Israel (IBA), Latvia (LT), Lithuania (LRT), Malta (PBS), Monte Carlo (TMC), Netherlands (NOS), Portugal (RTP), Serbia & Montenegro (RTS/RTCG), Slovenia (RTVSLO), Switzerland (SFDRS), Ukraine (NTU).


The contest will be held over 2 days. The qualifying round taking place on Wednesday 12th May and the grand final as usual on Saturday 15th May.

And, as a last note - it is believed (further to noggin's post) that the contest will indeed be broadcast in 16:9 this year, and also like the Junior Eurovision Contest - broadcasters will have the choice of an "A la carte" 4:3 version.

Should be interesting anyhow, and a couple of new interesting countries there in the lineup. What do people think about the 'big four' getting automatic entry because they pump the most money into the contest and the EBU? I suppose it's fair enough, but means that they won't have the same burden of chosing a cracking song to get them through not only the qualifying round but also to do well in the final like some other countries have.

And another note - it is the Eurovision Song Contest's 50th birthday next year - and apparently the EBU is planning a special 3 hour programme to be broadcast in 2005 on Song Contest host broadcasters that will feature a special history of the contest. Do you think they'll bring out the full Eurovision theme and halo for it? Very Happy
NG
noggin Founding member
I expect BBC Three will be showing the mid-week qualification rounds - and I guess it will also provide some on-air rehearsals for the coverage of the songs that do make it to the final.

The BBC are also planning a major entertainment show to chose this year's entry - and I hear rumours that next year the song choice and singer choice may be independent for viewers (so you can chose both your song and your performer separately) I don't think this is in place for this year.
:-(
A former member
I absolutely love the eurovision! Live entertainment, cross dressing, people who can't sing, bitching, bickering, hate and rivalry and ganging up - an event like this is cannot be beaten by anything (except every day like on TV Forum which is much like the eurovision).

The only thing that makes eurovison better than TV Forum is that it's usually (alright, these last few years are an exception) hosted by some fit presenters with sexy accents who can hardly speak a word of English (which I find quite adorable).
:-(
A former member
EUROVISION!!! Razz

Will Terry Wogan still be commentating on the entries?
I love his remarks on there Dress sense, voices, accents, countries and generally anything about the entry he can poke fun at!
Well done Terry!
Also did you see the 2003 Eurovision, held in, of all places, Latvia? Confused:
What did you think of our 'nul point' escapade? Crying or Very sad
:-(
A former member
Isonstine posted:
And another note - it is the Eurovision Song Contest's 50th birthday next year - and apparently the EBU is planning a special 3 hour programme to be broadcast in 2005 on Song Contest host broadcasters that will feature a special history of the contest. Do you think they'll bring out the full Eurovision theme and halo for it? Very Happy


More info Arrow Eurovision 50th
And some more info Arrow Eurovision Christmas Show 2004
Now let's not hold back with Arrow 30th Anniversary Abba Tribute

I must go and lie down...
:-(
A former member
The Guardian posted:
Nul points? Never again. The BBC is to give the kiss of life to the torpid selection process for the Eurovision song contest in an attempt to avoid a repeat of 2003's humiliating defeat, and to reignite the fading British interest in the long-running competition.

Learning from the success of shows such as Pop Idol, the corporation is to turn the little-watched Song for Europe programme - currently consigned to the graveyard of Sunday afternoons - into a big-budget Saturday night special.

It is to be renamed Eurovision: Making Your Mind Up, in homage to the smash hit Bucks Fizz song that won the contest in 1981. Terry Wogan, whose gently cynical commentary has been associated with Eurovision night since the contest began in 1956, will be joined by a young female presenter to bring in a youth audience and to inject greater enthusiasm into the event.

The motivation to revamp the selection process came when Britain scored zero for the first time in the contest's history in 2003. The result was partly due to the poor performance on the night of Jemini, the previously unknown duo whose song was written by Martin Isherwood, the head of music at Sir Paul McCartney's "fame school" in Liverpool.

Britain last won in 1997 with Love Shine a Light, performed by Katrina and the Waves. But recent entries have been characterised by a middle-of-the-road blandness that has proved too asinine even for the notoriously conservative Eurovision audience. Much of the blame for this lack of ambition is laid at the door of Song for Europe's place in the television schedule, and the resulting age profile of those who vote for the winning entry: the Sunday afternoon BBC1 audience is older on average than the typical audience for Fame Academy, Popstars or Pop Idol.

The format of Eurovision: Making Your Mind Up, will be familiar to viewers of such shows. Six bands will each perform a different song, and a panel of judges will provide commentary on the entries; then viewers will be invited to vote for their favourite by phone or SMS text. The winner, who will represent Britain at the 2004 event in Turkey, will be revealed on the same evening.

Cat Deeley, Zoe Ball, Claudia Winkleman and Laurene Laverne are among the names being considered by BBC bosses to front the show with Wogan.

Further details are still being worked out between the BBC and the Sony record company, which will release the winning song on CD, and it is not yet decided whether any well-known bands will be involved. It is thought that a number of bands have already been approached.

A BBC source said: "The British public might have secretly loved the fact that we got nul points last time, but we think the joke would wear a bit thin two years in a row. There are lots of talented songwriters out there and it's just not good enough to rest on our laurels, treating it as a national joke."
MN
MarkNewby
Hm, I was excited at the start of the article and let down by the end. I thought it was going to be a weekly thing for a few weeks, so that we'd really get to see a variety of acts. Also I don't think it's very fair to have big-name bands / artists in the contest. I realise that other countries do this, but the great thing about the UK is that over the last few years eurovision has really provided a chance for new performers to try and break the scene.

My idea is that it would run for 7 weeks - 6 weeks featuring 6 bands of different style - Rock, Rap, Pop, Dance, Ballad, Jazz. Then the final really would create audience ratings. You would have something musical for -everyone- under one roof. Another good way to make people watch is to donate the money from the phone votes to charity. People love charity shows.

So instead of showcasing a measily 6 acts, you would whip through 36 from 6 different styles of music. It would create a massive audience for the final too, as people would -want- to see how thier choice did, instead of just tuning in for the sake of it; to see how the sunday afternoon people voted.

p.s. Am I the only one who is thinking Terry will end up doing the show with Gaby? They're used to working with each other, at least!
:-(
A former member
Interesting idea - what about a swing song? Swing music like Frank Sinatra has become popular again recently and I can't recall any swing / big band music on the eurovision ion the last few years...
DJ
DJGM
treasure hunt posted:

EUROVISION!!! Razz

Will Terry Wogan still be commentating on the entries?


Well, it just wouldn't be the same without the commentary from El Tel!

treasure hunt posted:
EUROVISION!!! Razz
What did you think of our 'nul point' escapade? Crying or Very sad


(shudder!) No comment!


chrisb posted:

Interesting idea - what about a swing song?
Swing music like Frank Sinatra has become popular again recently . . .


I think that might have something to do with a certain popular singer by the name of Robbie Williams . . .
KA
Katherine Founding member
NOTE TO SELF: Apply for political asylum in Ulan Bator between late April and early June.....
BO
Boleto
Cyprus better make it through!!!! (Cyprus is CyBC and not CBC)
JO
Joel
NOO! As much as I love the real Eurovision - I can't stand the Junior version.
The second Junior Eurovision will take place in Manchester this year.

Can't wait. Rolling Eyes

Joel.
xxx

Newer posts