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Blake Connolly Founding member
dvboy posted:
How Sky News reported Princess Diana's death 20 years ago
On the anniversary of Princess Diana's death in Paris, Sky News' employees recall how they reported the event 20 years ago.
http://news.sky.com/story/how-sky-news-reported-princess-dianas-death-20-years-ago-11013173


In that piece, John Ryley says that the Queen's address on the Friday evening was pre-recorded rather than, as it famously was supposed to be, live. Although he seems to only base that on there being a VT clock before it, which while being a good clue, doesn't completely rule out it being live - especially something like that where it would have needed to have been taken at the correct point by numerous outlets around the world with various delays etc.
NG
noggin Founding member


Anecdotally, this is a factor of changing perception?

I can recall my first (UK) exposure to HDTV. It was from a Sky+HD box about 12 years ago. As well as an output into a projector there was UHF PAL into the co-ax distribution. When the thing was fed into a 4:3 fairly modern CRT TV, my initial reaction was to think: "Wow, this is how TV used to look!"

So, only anecdotally. But, UK analog TV did seem to degrade from the '70s to the '00s. I don't doubt that this was actually my perception, but it may also have been the transition from well maintained and calibrated thermionic based electronics to chip based stuff with (elementary) firmware processing and multiple compromises.


If anything transistors and ICs definitely improved things... I remember valve TVs looking pretty dodgy. The pictures you got from a decent IC-based set in the mid-80s were definitely better than those you got from valve-based TVs.

The highest quality pictures you could see as a domestic viewer in the UK were usually BBC One and BBC Two off-air from Crystal Palace. When you saw live programmes, particularly high quality UK shows, on those transmissions they were usually very good indeed. Wimbledon in particular could look incredible. Other transmitters were never quite as good as CP as the distribution path knocked the edges off...

If you avoided shows that had been fed over satellite, recorded to 1" VT, or fed via a complex microwave path, or fed through lower quality synchronisers - you could get very good 4:3 pictures.

The rot set in once digital compression arrived in production, and when TVs started doing digital frame-store based processing (often only 6 bit...)

The early DVB-T/DVB-S SD MPEG2 stuff actually looked pretty good - as bit rates were pretty high. The first SD MPEG2 DVB-S channels I watched were using 8-10Mbs bitrates...

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Even so, component HD digital video down-converted and passed through the PAL encoder of an early (Thompson?) Sky+HD box didn't look too bad.



Well by then the SD digital compression was terrible - compare off-air recordings from BBC One / BBC Choice in the early 00s to those of 2006 and you'll see a massive increase in compression artefacts.

HD downconverted to SD at home would by then look a lot better than the SD broadcast.


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(Strweph I'm getting old.... reminiscences on early HD! Huh?)


That's NOT early HD... Early HD would be c.1990... That's around the time I first saw HD stuff - both the Japanese HiVision and European Eureka 1250 stuff. I even remember seeing 3D HD in Brighton at IBC in a cinema around that time...
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IS
Inspector Sands
Yes, why any journalist would choose not to listen to coverage of the big story she's travelling in to work on seems bizarre. I suspect she did but it's a a case of time blurring memories. I hope they didn't use the copy from her tape if that was the case


The really interesting bit for me is the bit about the Queens broadcast not being live. I'd not heard that before. I wonder if it was live but there was just a VT clock on the start of the feed as was normal for a live broadcast. They would have wanted the lead up to it blanked out after all and although it was a clock start, a countdown is always useful
VM
VMPhil

There must be a whole generation that now think all 80s and 90s TV was as crap as that when originally broadcast (which it certainly wasn't)

I've heard the same thing by those who remember 405 line TV, it never looks as good as it did originally (though of course there wasn't any aspect ratio conversion involved)

Isn’t this also why people say the original Harlech ident looks bad now - because it actually looked fine on 405 line sets.
S7
sbahnhof 7
This from Kay Burley in that article is interesting

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At the end of our broadcast we were contemplating appropriate music to accompany a video montage.

I suggested a cassette tape I'd been listening to on the drive in that morning.

"Some of the lyrics are inappropriate, but it sums up Diana for me," I said to the team.

It was Elton John's Candle in the Wind.


Kate Thornton tells a similar story of the ITV show she was working on that day.

Surprised that Kay wouldn't have had the BBC Radio coverage or LBC on as she drove in.


Hmm.

What was the story with Candle in the Wind? Maybe one area where TV coverage actively influenced the funeral?

Thornton tells the story that they were looking for a suitable piece of music to end the programme and she was looking at the tapes in her car and suggested Candle in the Wind. Apparently Elton John was watching and was suitably inspired. Apparently.


Hmm.

And what's John Ryley's point about the Queen recording her speech? Is it that Buckingham Palace were dishonest about it?

Nobody would've demanded it be live. Apparently some of the Christmas speeches aren't live either Surprised
VM
VMPhil
Coincidentally I came across this on YouTube earlier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjwxZyAlEGs

A bit of quick research tells me that the show at the start of this clip is the short-lived Saved by the Bell: The College Years, episode 3 'Zack, Lies & Videotape'. You can see the ending here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x543zog

This mustn't be entirely correct then:

CHANNEL FOUR

6.00am until 11.40am, The Art of Landscape was aired replacing the usual Sunday morning kids cartoons. There was regular Channel 4 News updates through the morning.

11.40am - The Waltons.

12.40pm - Film, Summertime

2.30pm - Sad Cat, followed at 2.45pm by Football Italia.


Looks like it was…

6.00am - The Art of Landscape

11.15am - Saved by the Bell: The College Years

11.45am - The Waltons

12.45pm - Film: Summer Madness (also known outside the UK as Summertime)

2.50pm - Football Italia

…interspersed with news updates.
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A former member
I'm sure there was other kids programmes on ch4 that morning between the new updates. Unless my minds playing tricks.
RO
Rory
ITV News uploaded this to their YouTube channel today:

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VMPhil
And here’s Tim Willcox again, earlier on with ITN’s first newsflash

LL
Larry the Loafer
ITV News uploaded this to their YouTube channel today.


Although that wasn't the very first moment Dermot spoke of the reports. Not sure if this has been posted yet in this thread but here's the moment ITN broke into The Chart Show (just so happened to interrupt a utterly terrible song IMO, every cloud etc).

Skip to 7:15 for how ITN initially broke the news that she was, according to PA, dead.

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VMPhil


SL
Shaun Linden
Interesting the Sky piece mainly focuses on Kay, considering it was Martin who initially reported that she'd died for a while, before the official announcement which Kay delivers.

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