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20 years since the death of Princess Diana

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sbahnhof 7
James Vertigan posted:
Hatton Cross posted:

But then IRN didn't cover themselves in glory announcing the news either.


Indeed. You can hear the bulletin here... https://audioboom.com/posts/5763250-irn-announcement-death-of-queen-mother


Tony Blair bringing the jokes within minutes, "...and of course her wonderful hats" :-S (From a speech on her 100th birthday.) A poor choice of obit report!
JA
james-2001
James Vertigan posted:


"It's si.... it's Six O'clock", they couldn't even get that bit right.
JA
JAS84
james-2001 posted:
The headline font on the Daily Mail looks a bit "off" to me too, maybe it is just as you said it being scrambled together, possibly by staff who weren't used to assembling front pages

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Shouldn't there have been a Continued on Page X at the bottom of that?
JA
james-2001
Presumably another casualty of it having to be put together at such short notice, possibly by inexperienced hands?

4AM, as that headline is labelled (presuming it means Paris time), is actually the time she was declared dead. Not that the reporters would have known that of course as it wasn't officially announced until 2 hours later.
BR
Brekkie
RDJ posted:
Hatton Cross posted:
I'll say it again. I was broadcasting that afternoon, and the PA 'snap' flashed up on my screen wires in the studio at 4.15, with a strict embargo until 5pm.

Either Peter was in canteen until 4.40 or something went very badly wrong with the pre-annoucment preparations, in claiming 'it was a surprise and I didn't have enough time to prepare'. You had 45 minutes, like the rest of us to head into obit mode.

But then IRN didn't cover themselves in glory announcing the news either.


It's also documented in the ITV programme 'Newsflash - Stories that shook the World' that on the ITV News that evening Mary was not aware of the news until the news bulletin that she was anchoring had finished and they were in the ad break waiting to come back on the air to break the news.

Surely if the news was known about before and embargoed they wouldn't have ended the news bulletin and would have made arrangements with Network to remain on the air? Even if it meant shoehorning another standby story in until they could announce the news.

Does an embargoed story reach a newsreader though. There might be protocols in place for them not to know so they can't accidently reveal it on air prior to the embargo time.
BB
BBI45
Brekkie posted:
RDJ posted:
Hatton Cross posted:
I'll say it again. I was broadcasting that afternoon, and the PA 'snap' flashed up on my screen wires in the studio at 4.15, with a strict embargo until 5pm.

Either Peter was in canteen until 4.40 or something went very badly wrong with the pre-annoucment preparations, in claiming 'it was a surprise and I didn't have enough time to prepare'. You had 45 minutes, like the rest of us to head into obit mode.

But then IRN didn't cover themselves in glory announcing the news either.


It's also documented in the ITV programme 'Newsflash - Stories that shook the World' that on the ITV News that evening Mary was not aware of the news until the news bulletin that she was anchoring had finished and they were in the ad break waiting to come back on the air to break the news.

Surely if the news was known about before and embargoed they wouldn't have ended the news bulletin and would have made arrangements with Network to remain on the air? Even if it meant shoehorning another standby story in until they could announce the news.

Does an embargoed story reach a newsreader though. There might be protocols in place for them not to know so they can't accidently reveal it on air prior to the embargo time.

With certain embargoes in the past, newsreaders haven't been told until the agreed time is reached IIRC. I think the reasons for this are two-fold.


1: To prevent it being accidentally being revealed on-air or online. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33432647)
2: To prevent the newsreader from reacting to the news in any way which may hint that a significant piece of news has been embargoed.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Brekkie posted:
RDJ posted:
Hatton Cross posted:
I'll say it again. I was broadcasting that afternoon, and the PA 'snap' flashed up on my screen wires in the studio at 4.15, with a strict embargo until 5pm.

Either Peter was in canteen until 4.40 or something went very badly wrong with the pre-annoucment preparations, in claiming 'it was a surprise and I didn't have enough time to prepare'. You had 45 minutes, like the rest of us to head into obit mode.

But then IRN didn't cover themselves in glory announcing the news either.


It's also documented in the ITV programme 'Newsflash - Stories that shook the World' that on the ITV News that evening Mary was not aware of the news until the news bulletin that she was anchoring had finished and they were in the ad break waiting to come back on the air to break the news.

Surely if the news was known about before and embargoed they wouldn't have ended the news bulletin and would have made arrangements with Network to remain on the air? Even if it meant shoehorning another standby story in until they could announce the news.

Does an embargoed story reach a newsreader though. There might be protocols in place for them not to know so they can't accidently reveal it on air prior to the embargo time.


Kay Burley was certainly aware of Diana's death before officially announcing it on Sky News.
BR
Brekkie
London Lite posted:
Kay Burley was certainly aware of Diana's death before officially announcing it on Sky News.

Well a dog had passed her with sadness in his eyes.
LL
Larry the Loafer
London Lite posted:
Kay Burley was certainly aware of Diana's death before officially announcing it on Sky News.


Wasn't the embargo broken though by the "unnamed British sources" that PA were citing? Pretty much everybody knew, or at least had a feeling, what had happened before anything official was announced.
VM
VMPhil
Larry the Loafer posted:
London Lite posted:
Kay Burley was certainly aware of Diana's death before officially announcing it on Sky News.


Wasn't the embargo broken though by the "unnamed British sources" that PA were citing? Pretty much everybody knew, or at least had a feeling, what had happened before anything official was announced.



From Matthew Rudd’s blog post about being a radio presenter on the night:

Quote:
By 3am we were convinced, without any proof at all, that she was dead because the hospital in Paris was telling the media absolutely nothing on the record. Both of us - and we were the only people in the building aside from the security chap who was too busy snoring in reception to notice - re-acquainted ourselves with the obituary procedure and located the copy of the national anthem that had been placed in each studio.
WH
Whataday Founding member
Larry the Loafer posted:
London Lite posted:
Kay Burley was certainly aware of Diana's death before officially announcing it on Sky News.


Wasn't the embargo broken though by the "unnamed British sources" that PA were citing? Pretty much everybody knew, or at least had a feeling, what had happened before anything official was announced.


The "unnamed British source" was Robin Cook.
IS
Inspector Sands
Larry the Loafer posted:

Wasn't the embargo broken though by the "unnamed British sources" that PA were citing?

It wasn't the source that broke the embargo, it was PA by reporting what he said

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