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Yes you're right it's called Neon. Sometimes when people don't know the real names, they come up with their own that describe it.
Sorry, but that's a badly judged remark.
But there you go!
To comment on your response the other day:
I did say that I had left out mention of stings at the time, I had written plenty as it was!
I emphasised the importance of 1993 for the idents, and it was neither just those, nor just the stings, that helped BBC2 pres to hit its stride - they both played their part.
Visually however, it was a bigger leap forward for the idents. What hasn't been mentioned is how stings that existed *prior* to 1993 also had a similar avoidance of character.
The '2' initially appeared in traffic lights, spaghetti, polaroid photgraphs, and replaced Bubbles in a spoof of Test Card F (notable as an example of BBC2 parodying a part of the Beeb's own pres - a good way to position BBC2 as a channel that wasn't going to take itself too seriously!) Yet none of these saw the '2' actually having a life of its own until 1993 - as if prior to that year, it had either never been considered, was consciously brought in later, or may well have been a practical / technological reason - pre-93 was live action stings, and post-93 used a lot more animation.
Current stings as were used in '07 have lamentably been left to gather dust now - but if they were still used, would be dwarfed by the sheer scope, and later the well-chosen sound design, of their 1992 - 2001 counterparts, which seemed to cover the entire gamut of moods known to man: artsy yet light for 'Ballet'; humour with drama in 'Sneeze'; the manic 'Seeing Stars'; fun or cute (the TV set variants; 'Periscope'), the unexpected twist in 'Demolition', the downright creepy 'Animation', and the dark 'Eerie' (which is quite possibly a sequence more suited to the closedown than any of the idents themselves!)
I've selected a few examples, in addition to 'Pounce' which you've mentioned: 'Modern Art' which draws parallels with Channel 4's current concept; 'Corridor', which foreshadowed the 'Invisible Walls' ident almost a decade early, and 'Bowling Alley' with its cheeky outcome - they serve to illustrate the strong ideas and range; many of the whole set could easily hold their own today.
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I've never called it "Sign," personally, and neither do LambieNairn by the looks of things...
Yes you're right it's called Neon. Sometimes when people don't know the real names, they come up with their own that describe it.
Sorry, but that's a badly judged remark.
But there you go!
To comment on your response the other day:
Quote:
Paul Clark, I agree with much of what you say. However, I think that it was the stings introduced in 1993 that helped to give the '2' a character. The computer generated jelly '2' that hopped in and out of shot, or the computer generated '2' that made a noise as it was hopping on spots on a floor.
I did say that I had left out mention of stings at the time, I had written plenty as it was!
I emphasised the importance of 1993 for the idents, and it was neither just those, nor just the stings, that helped BBC2 pres to hit its stride - they both played their part.
Visually however, it was a bigger leap forward for the idents. What hasn't been mentioned is how stings that existed *prior* to 1993 also had a similar avoidance of character.
The '2' initially appeared in traffic lights, spaghetti, polaroid photgraphs, and replaced Bubbles in a spoof of Test Card F (notable as an example of BBC2 parodying a part of the Beeb's own pres - a good way to position BBC2 as a channel that wasn't going to take itself too seriously!) Yet none of these saw the '2' actually having a life of its own until 1993 - as if prior to that year, it had either never been considered, was consciously brought in later, or may well have been a practical / technological reason - pre-93 was live action stings, and post-93 used a lot more animation.
Current stings as were used in '07 have lamentably been left to gather dust now - but if they were still used, would be dwarfed by the sheer scope, and later the well-chosen sound design, of their 1992 - 2001 counterparts, which seemed to cover the entire gamut of moods known to man: artsy yet light for 'Ballet'; humour with drama in 'Sneeze'; the manic 'Seeing Stars'; fun or cute (the TV set variants; 'Periscope'), the unexpected twist in 'Demolition', the downright creepy 'Animation', and the dark 'Eerie' (which is quite possibly a sequence more suited to the closedown than any of the idents themselves!)
I've selected a few examples, in addition to 'Pounce' which you've mentioned: 'Modern Art' which draws parallels with Channel 4's current concept; 'Corridor', which foreshadowed the 'Invisible Walls' ident almost a decade early, and 'Bowling Alley' with its cheeky outcome - they serve to illustrate the strong ideas and range; many of the whole set could easily hold their own today.
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