MA
i'd love that! it annoys me the fact it gets cut off bang on 6pm every night...something else to watch when there's nothing good on!
x
It really does depend upon whether ABC can be bothered with investing yet more money in the platform. It's worth bearing in mind that ABC have already established a 'presence' both on freeview and on the other platforms. The question, I suppose, whould be what ABC would gain by going 24 hours or, more likely, extending existing hours.
I've not been in all day on the five story. I understand that 'Top Up TV' has made a wholesale change in its approach to its customers and this will subsiquently free up five new channels on Freeview, my question however, after getting several conflicting answers today, is whether the new channels from five will be free-to-view.
Cheers in advance.
Oh, I think it'd be an excellent opportunity for ABC to seize, incidently. I think this summer is an incredably exciting time for freeview. The arrival of Film Four (regardless of initial concerns) looks like a major draw. The likes of E4, More4 and ABC1 are all excellent, and growing, developments.
I just hope that someone has the sense to realise that freeview will not be successful if you continually allow cheap shopping/quiz channels to dominate. Last night (during the early hours) I counted the amount of these channels; 12 is simply to high on freeviews restrictions.
Anyway, it's good to talk, or so BT said...
gloves86 posted:
J0nn13 posted:
this is the perfect opportunity for Disney to take abc1 to 24hrs on Freeview...
Jonnie
Jonnie
i'd love that! it annoys me the fact it gets cut off bang on 6pm every night...something else to watch when there's nothing good on!
x
It really does depend upon whether ABC can be bothered with investing yet more money in the platform. It's worth bearing in mind that ABC have already established a 'presence' both on freeview and on the other platforms. The question, I suppose, whould be what ABC would gain by going 24 hours or, more likely, extending existing hours.
I've not been in all day on the five story. I understand that 'Top Up TV' has made a wholesale change in its approach to its customers and this will subsiquently free up five new channels on Freeview, my question however, after getting several conflicting answers today, is whether the new channels from five will be free-to-view.
Cheers in advance.
Oh, I think it'd be an excellent opportunity for ABC to seize, incidently. I think this summer is an incredably exciting time for freeview. The arrival of Film Four (regardless of initial concerns) looks like a major draw. The likes of E4, More4 and ABC1 are all excellent, and growing, developments.
I just hope that someone has the sense to realise that freeview will not be successful if you continually allow cheap shopping/quiz channels to dominate. Last night (during the early hours) I counted the amount of these channels; 12 is simply to high on freeviews restrictions.
Anyway, it's good to talk, or so BT said...
NJ
i'd love that! it annoys me the fact it gets cut off bang on 6pm every night...something else to watch when there's nothing good on! x
It really does depend upon whether ABC can be bothered with investing yet more money in the platform. It's worth bearing in mind that ABC have already established a 'presence' both on freeview and on the other platforms. The question, I suppose, whould be what ABC would gain by going 24 hours or, more likely, extending existing hours.
It's well known that ABC1's viewership plummets heavily in the evening due to it not currently being on Freeview after 6pm. IIRC Disney put in an application for the previous 24hr slot on Freeview, but that went to Channel 4. Freeview has been ABC1's major focal point since it launched; its where it gets most of its audience from.
New stuff for ABC1 though in the near future:
July - Scrubs season 2
July - Party of Five season 1
Summer 2006 - Less than Perfect season 3
January 2007 - Ghost Whisperer season 1
But there are a lot of contenders for space on Freeview. Disney want more time for the above reasons, Teachers TV want longer hours (and could probably argue that its a education public service) and maybe even Channel 4 for FilmFour+1 and/or More4+1. I dare say Flextech could be interested too, considering they're now lost all interest in Ftn.
Neil Jones
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Matrix posted:
gloves86 posted:
J0nn13 posted:
this is the perfect opportunity for Disney to take abc1 to 24hrs on Freeview...
Jonnie
Jonnie
i'd love that! it annoys me the fact it gets cut off bang on 6pm every night...something else to watch when there's nothing good on!
x
It really does depend upon whether ABC can be bothered with investing yet more money in the platform. It's worth bearing in mind that ABC have already established a 'presence' both on freeview and on the other platforms. The question, I suppose, whould be what ABC would gain by going 24 hours or, more likely, extending existing hours.
It's well known that ABC1's viewership plummets heavily in the evening due to it not currently being on Freeview after 6pm. IIRC Disney put in an application for the previous 24hr slot on Freeview, but that went to Channel 4. Freeview has been ABC1's major focal point since it launched; its where it gets most of its audience from.
New stuff for ABC1 though in the near future:
July - Scrubs season 2
July - Party of Five season 1
Summer 2006 - Less than Perfect season 3
January 2007 - Ghost Whisperer season 1
But there are a lot of contenders for space on Freeview. Disney want more time for the above reasons, Teachers TV want longer hours (and could probably argue that its a education public service) and maybe even Channel 4 for FilmFour+1 and/or More4+1. I dare say Flextech could be interested too, considering they're now lost all interest in Ftn.
SP
I'm a bit puzzled as to how this is going to work considering most PVRs don't have a card slot. Aren't they rather limiting their potential market... or do they really think they'll convince enough people to buy compatible PVRs to make it vialbe?
Brekkie Boy posted:
From what I gather basically this new Top Up TV service will offer downloads overnight to PVRs (so won't be like the BT broadband thing then!) - so I guess they'll essentially broadcast a number of programmes overnight on two or three streams for people to record.
I know PVRs vary, but if they have more than one stream won't that restrict what people can record as most can record just one stream at a time.
I know PVRs vary, but if they have more than one stream won't that restrict what people can record as most can record just one stream at a time.
I'm a bit puzzled as to how this is going to work considering most PVRs don't have a card slot. Aren't they rather limiting their potential market... or do they really think they'll convince enough people to buy compatible PVRs to make it vialbe?
WO
So if the new Five channels will be using Top Up TV's space, does that mean bog standard freeview boxes that aren't compatiable with Top Up TV won't be able to pick them up?
Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick?
Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick?
LO
The Guardian Media Group may be a big company, but is it really fair to use their content without giving them a chance to earn from the advertising that funds their news service?
You only need to remember your email address and a password you choose, it's not that difficult to log in.
I admit I've copied and pasted entire articles onto this forum in the past, but as someone who runs a content-based site myself, I wouldn't do it now.
The Guardian has one of the more enlightened attitudes to the web amongst newspaper groups, but if they feel they need to enforce registration for specialist areas like media news to ensure continued free access to their content, I think that's a fair enough deal.
Gavin Scott posted:
Err, could you just copy and paste the article? Its a real pain to have to find my log on details every time.
The Guardian Media Group may be a big company, but is it really fair to use their content without giving them a chance to earn from the advertising that funds their news service?
You only need to remember your email address and a password you choose, it's not that difficult to log in.
I admit I've copied and pasted entire articles onto this forum in the past, but as someone who runs a content-based site myself, I wouldn't do it now.
The Guardian has one of the more enlightened attitudes to the web amongst newspaper groups, but if they feel they need to enforce registration for specialist areas like media news to ensure continued free access to their content, I think that's a fair enough deal.
SP
They will be available on standard Freeview boxes.
Although they'll be using the space previously occupied by TUTV channels, they just won't be encrypted, and so will be free to air.
What happens with the other channels that move into TUTV's space is up to the individual broadcaster. Should Setanta get a channel, it's likely that will still be encrypted, and so you'll need a card to access it.
Woody_streatham posted:
So if the new Five channels will be using Top Up TV's space, does that mean bog standard freeview boxes that aren't compatiable with Top Up TV won't be able to pick them up?
Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick?
Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick?
They will be available on standard Freeview boxes.
Although they'll be using the space previously occupied by TUTV channels, they just won't be encrypted, and so will be free to air.
What happens with the other channels that move into TUTV's space is up to the individual broadcaster. Should Setanta get a channel, it's likely that will still be encrypted, and so you'll need a card to access it.
SP
The Guardian Media Group may be a big company, but is it really fair to use their content without giving them a chance to earn from the advertising that funds their news service?
You only need to remember your email address and a password you choose, it's not that difficult to log in.
I admit I've copied and pasted entire articles onto this forum in the past, but as someone who runs a content-based site myself, I wouldn't do it now.
The Guardian has one of the more enlightened attitudes to the web amongst newspaper groups, but if they feel they need to enforce registration for specialist areas like media news to ensure continued free access to their content, I think that's a fair enough deal.
If I've quoted stuff I've generally just used the first few paragraphs which give the bare bones of the story, then a link to click for those who want to read the full details, which I've always figured was a good compromise.
Also, if the logging in process is too much of a fanny, the 'Remember Me' tick-box on the login screen solves this problem.
Londoner posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
Err, could you just copy and paste the article? Its a real pain to have to find my log on details every time.
The Guardian Media Group may be a big company, but is it really fair to use their content without giving them a chance to earn from the advertising that funds their news service?
You only need to remember your email address and a password you choose, it's not that difficult to log in.
I admit I've copied and pasted entire articles onto this forum in the past, but as someone who runs a content-based site myself, I wouldn't do it now.
The Guardian has one of the more enlightened attitudes to the web amongst newspaper groups, but if they feel they need to enforce registration for specialist areas like media news to ensure continued free access to their content, I think that's a fair enough deal.
If I've quoted stuff I've generally just used the first few paragraphs which give the bare bones of the story, then a link to click for those who want to read the full details, which I've always figured was a good compromise.
Also, if the logging in process is too much of a fanny, the 'Remember Me' tick-box on the login screen solves this problem.
BR
So what becomes of the encripted channels then?
They are being replaced by Top Up TV Anytime - a download service where overnight they will use spare capacity to stream a number of programmes off digital channels and you will order them to a Freeview PVR box.
This move should free up the EPG a bit, as Top Up TV will vacate 17, 25-29, 33 (Setanta is expected to get a full slot, so would keep 34) and a few channels in kids/news.
I don't know where Top Up TV would place their holding page for the Anytime service (possibly 17), but I'd expect Five to get first pic of the newly available numbers.
Logically it makes more sense to me to put Five US and Five Life together on 25/26, but I expect they'll just get the earliest slots possible and if they can get 17/25, they'll have them.
ITV4 and FilmFour will probably move up a bit - though moving from 30/31 to 27/28 isn't much better IMO - it's the 17 slot they'd want!
Conan-san posted:
A.J.A. posted:
Top Up TV went into voluntary liquidation last week.
They are being replaced by Top Up TV Anytime - a download service where overnight they will use spare capacity to stream a number of programmes off digital channels and you will order them to a Freeview PVR box.
This move should free up the EPG a bit, as Top Up TV will vacate 17, 25-29, 33 (Setanta is expected to get a full slot, so would keep 34) and a few channels in kids/news.
I don't know where Top Up TV would place their holding page for the Anytime service (possibly 17), but I'd expect Five to get first pic of the newly available numbers.
Logically it makes more sense to me to put Five US and Five Life together on 25/26, but I expect they'll just get the earliest slots possible and if they can get 17/25, they'll have them.
ITV4 and FilmFour will probably move up a bit - though moving from 30/31 to 27/28 isn't much better IMO - it's the 17 slot they'd want!
BR
Possible, but unlikely I'd say. Even if UKTV did get one of the slots vacated, I'd be surprised if they put their flagship channel on Freeview.
Going majorly off topic - though it's all kind of linked - I notice Top Up TV have sneaked in a Quiz channel.
Non Top Up TV viewers tuning into a TUTV channel now get an MHEG graphic for "Quizworld" with a puzzle, with audio on channel 107 (Top Up TV Active) - even on the kids channels, which is a bit wrong IMO!
Going majorly off topic - though it's all kind of linked - I notice Top Up TV have sneaked in a Quiz channel.
Non Top Up TV viewers tuning into a TUTV channel now get an MHEG graphic for "Quizworld" with a puzzle, with audio on channel 107 (Top Up TV Active) - even on the kids channels, which is a bit wrong IMO!