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A look into the Cabinet papers of the time. (February 2017)

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DE88
The Broadcasting Act 1990 correctly shaped the ITV of the future. It was the shock needed to make ITV a lean, fit competitor in the face of Sky, Cable, Broadband and Gaming.


Still didn't mean the London weekday franchise had to change hands, though... Embarassed
WH
Whataday Founding member
DE88 posted:
The Broadcasting Act 1990 correctly shaped the ITV of the future. It was the shock needed to make ITV a lean, fit competitor in the face of Sky, Cable, Broadband and Gaming.


Still didn't mean the London weekday franchise had to change hands, though... Embarassed


This is true, but it was handy that London Weekday was won by a publisher broadcaster.
BR
Brekkie
Probably strengthened the regions outside of London actually by not having a London franchise who ended up as kind of the default producer of primetime programming in the way LWT kind of was on Saturday nights at least.
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A former member
Not really, all it did was bring in some strange players. Many ITV stations like LWT, Scottish, central had all ready instigated big cuts all over the place to stream line the company. Would Thames have sold of there studios and moved in to Kent house? TVS would have lost because the IBA would not have been happy with them.
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JAS84
The Broadcasting Act 1990 correctly shaped the ITV of the future. It was the shock needed to make ITV a lean, fit competitor in the face of Sky, Cable, Broadband and Gaming .
Those weren't a threat at the time. Broadband was a decade away and gaming was still Commodores and Amstrads.
WH
Whataday Founding member
JAS84 posted:
The Broadcasting Act 1990 correctly shaped the ITV of the future. It was the shock needed to make ITV a lean, fit competitor in the face of Sky, Cable, Broadband and Gaming .
Those weren't a threat at the time. Broadband was a decade away and gaming was still Commodores and Amstrads.


You've misinterpreted me. I didn't say that all those things were a threat at the time - I said that the Act correctly shaped the ITV of the future in order to deal with them.
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Inspector Sands
Probably strengthened the regions outside of London actually by not having a London franchise who ended up as kind of the default producer of primetime programming in the way LWT kind of was on Saturday nights at least.

In theory yes but I don't remember many big new successful new shows filling the weekday evening slots that Thames used to. In fact gradually extra episodes of soaps ended up filling those hours.


Many ITV stations like LWT, Scottish, central had all ready instigated big cuts all over the place to stream line the company. Would Thames have sold of there studios and moved in to Kent house?

Thames would have had to have instigated massive cuts post 1993 too, and become even more streamlined as time went on and ITVs output changed.


As for its studios but Teddington had already been spun off and Euston was bought back by its landlords for redevelopment a few years after Thames went off air. Even if that hadn't have happened they'd have wanted somewhere smaller and more modern eventually.

I've no doubt they'd have entered into some sort of facilities sharing like Carlton and LWT did. That's just sensible, especially the next time both needed a tech refresh
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Ne1L C
Probably strengthened the regions outside of London actually by not having a London franchise who ended up as kind of the default producer of primetime programming in the way LWT kind of was on Saturday nights at least.

In theory yes but I don't remember many big new successful new shows filling the weekday evening slots that Thames used to. In fact gradually extra episodes of soaps ended up filling those hours.


Many ITV stations like LWT, Scottish, central had all ready instigated big cuts all over the place to stream line the company. Would Thames have sold of there studios and moved in to Kent house?

Thames would have had to have instigated massive cuts post 1993 too, and become even more streamlined as time went on and ITVs output changed.


As for its studios but Teddington had already been spun off and Euston was bought back by its landlords for redevelopment a few years after Thames went off air. Even if that hadn't have happened they'd have wanted somewhere smaller and more modern eventually.

I've no doubt they'd have entered into some sort of facilities sharing like Carlton and LWT did. That's just sensible, especially the next time both needed a tech refresh


Yorkshire and Tyne Tees re-merged post Broadcasting act. Was "Network North" their answer to the tricky York/North Yorks overlap?
RI
Richard
Probably strengthened the regions outside of London actually by not having a London franchise who ended up as kind of the default producer of primetime programming in the way LWT kind of was on Saturday nights at least.

In theory yes but I don't remember many big new successful new shows filling the weekday evening slots that Thames used to. In fact gradually extra episodes of soaps ended up filling those hours.


Many ITV stations like LWT, Scottish, central had all ready instigated big cuts all over the place to stream line the company. Would Thames have sold of there studios and moved in to Kent house?

Thames would have had to have instigated massive cuts post 1993 too, and become even more streamlined as time went on and ITVs output changed.


As for its studios but Teddington had already been spun off and Euston was bought back by its landlords for redevelopment a few years after Thames went off air. Even if that hadn't have happened they'd have wanted somewhere smaller and more modern eventually.

I've no doubt they'd have entered into some sort of facilities sharing like Carlton and LWT did. That's just sensible, especially the next time both needed a tech refresh


Yorkshire and Tyne Tees re-merged post Broadcasting act. Was "Network North" their answer to the tricky York/North Yorks overlap?


Wasn't network north a pre-merger attempt to grab more of N Yorkshire from, er Yorkshire?
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Ne1L C
https://www.transdiffusion.org/2006/03/29/networknorth
JB
JexedBack
Wish the franchise applications were available online
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A former member
Wish the franchise applications were available online


I believe some are, you could email ofcom and put in a request for FOI, Its how we find out why CPT TV lose London weekday even thought it bidded more.

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