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Inspector Sands10,992 posts since 25 Aug 2004

I believe they were able to buy slots on LWT but Thames refused. I read somewhere that Thames had to give in during the last week, as promos for the following week had to be aired.

Yes, I'd imagine they'd have had a lot of slots to fill if they hadn't. Though I remember that 'Only Want to Be With You' promo of varying lengths was shown in virtually every junction towards the last couple of days.

I'm pretty sure the promos that were broadcast were for programmes on 'ITV' rather than 'Carlton' There were Carlton and GMTV launch promotions too, but they might have been in ad time rather than promo slots
Inspector Sands10,992 posts since 25 Aug 2004
I'm sure the last advert on TV-am was for GMTV. Wonder what price they paid (or TV-am charged) for that one?

Not only the last advert, but the last thing they showed was a GMTV advert, they said goodbye and then had a break and the GMTV promo ended spot on 9:25 rather than the usual eggcups copyright slide
Markymark4,763 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Meridian had promos running on TVS for a week to 10 days before changeover.

The promos often appeared in the middle of ad breaks, therefore probably as paid for ads.

I do recall promo/ads from TVS for the movie '[img]Close Encounters[/img]' as the New Year's Day film on Southern TV in the run up to changeover end of 1981.

The rest of the network had seen it on Dec 28th I think, Southern replaced it with The Tamarind Seed , but I do remember Bluebell Hill viewers wondering why they able to watch Close Enc twice within a week !
Whataday7,479 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
I'm sure TVS was grateful for every penny it could get.

Thames on the other hand were incredibly stubborn and in dispute with Carlton for much of 1992.

Each of the ITV franchises owned a share of the network's movie deal with the Hollywood studios. In the event a company lost its franchise they would be expected to sell them to the incumbent at the going rate (which for Thames' rights was around £5m) Thames heavily inflated the price to around £16m. Carlton offered £6.8m. Thames dug their heels in. Carlton refused to pay more and took legal action.

Just before it was due to go to court, Carlton settled for £8.5m and on top of that were liable for any outstanding payments to the Hollywood studios (a further £5m)
Last edited by Whataday on 17 February 2017 5:02pm
62305819,677 posts since 19 Aug 2005
STV Central Reporting Scotland
TVS wasn't in a position to make any bold decisions about its future. Pat Thingy - and we shall continue to call him that as he's abhorrent - wasn't only interested in an ageing archive. He wanted a base for his new channel.


But surely it would have been cheap to rent out space? I do know the IFC did use the studio for many other productions, during the 90s. How did UK gold get on air? At least with MTV/vh1/nick etc there all come the TVAM studios so it made it more cost effective.
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russty_russ4 posts since 17 Feb 2017 new member
Anglia (West) Look East

I believe they were able to buy slots on LWT but Thames refused. I read somewhere that Thames had to give in during the last week, as promos for the following week had to be aired.

Yes, I'd imagine they'd have had a lot of slots to fill if they hadn't. Though I remember that 'Only Want to Be With You' promo of varying lengths was shown in virtually every junction towards the last couple of days.

I'm pretty sure the promos that were broadcast were for programmes on 'ITV' rather than 'Carlton' There were Carlton and GMTV launch promotions too, but they might have been in ad time rather than promo slots


There was a Carlton promo along the lines of "programmes as seen on ITV will still be shown on Carlton" and they had stills of Wish You Were Here, The Bill, This Is Your Life. I couldn't tell you if that was aired on Thames or LWT mind you, probably the latter tho.
Whataday7,479 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
I'd imagine TVS Television was thrown in for cheap alongside MTM. When a company becomes insolvent time is not on its side. It was certainly a good purchase as IFE made a massive profit when it sold Maidstone Studios.

UK Gold came from Thames' Euston Road Studios I believe, and moved with them to Stephen Street.
russty_russ4 posts since 17 Feb 2017 new member
Anglia (West) Look East
Good sex guide? that won an award, some kids shows again there won some awards, its seem Carlton strongest area was kids. Does: Talking Telephone Numbers or Is It Legal? count ( did enjoy that) lets not talk about the Brighton Belles


Early Ministry of Mayhem programmes had a Carlton logo in the credits which was odd considering you never saw Carlton logos at the weekend but this was during a time when you sometimes saw an LWT endcap during the week, can't remember the programme that featured the LWT endcap but I think it was one of those airline type programmes.
Inspector Sands10,992 posts since 25 Aug 2004
I'm sure it wasn't a case of 'Pat Thingy' himself deciding what or what not to buy! Very Happy

But surely it would have been cheap to rent out space? I do know the IFC did use the studio for many other productions, during the 90s.

I suppose a company has to be based in a building somewhere. They bought a company with premises and facilities, they need those things, why wouldn't they use them

They rented out excess space in Maidstone to other companies

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How did UK gold get on air?

It was started at Thames Euston in it's final few months on air using facilities there. Then it moved to Molinaire. However it was just a repeats channel - operationally it was essentially on person and a load of tapes

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At least with MTV/vh1/nick etc there all come the TVAM studios so it made it more cost effective.

Well again it's a very different case (and I don't think Nick came from that building, for years it was in Rathbone Place) - more channels, more production and a bigger company.