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A new era of news presentation? (July 2009)

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NG
noggin Founding member

A rostrum/jib/remote op camera in 1 with super advanced track puts ITVs barcodes to shame.


Not really - the FreeD system at ITN is probably more flexible - as you can use it handheld, on a jib, on a ped, on an arm, possibly even on a Technocrane (if it would fit in the space!) etc. and with a skilled operator you can do moves live based on what is actually happening - think Jeremy Vine's election graphics - rather than having to go for pre-programmed stuff. The ZDF 'robot arm" system is entirely remote, and actually appears to be quite fixed in base terms - it can do a bit of jibbing and a small amount of tracking - but it isn't a full jib as ITN can have. I suspect it is fine at pre-programmed moves, but not as intuitive to drive live on-shot.

It looks as if they have gone for a mix of manual cameras and a couple of remote cameras which can do some limited motion moves simulating a track or a crab or a jib - but with more restrictions than a jib or a ped would have.

However as they have a fixed base - I suspect their arms are a LOT cheaper to maintain. You don't need anywhere near as much health and safety support compared to fully robotic cameras - or the laser read wall barcodes that the BBC used to have to have on the studio wall. (The BBC robots checked their position by looking at barcodes on the wall but didn't use it for VR purposes. The ITN VR camera position detection system - actually invented by the BBC and marketed as Free D - has a small CCTV camera mounted on top of every camera that looks at circular bar codes in the ceiling and as long as it can see 4 it can tell its height, position and rotation)

If anything I'd say ITN have the better camera position detecting system... It's more flexible than having to use remote/robot cameras.
SK
skyfan

Isn't that how the BBC's news programmes are done now anyway? I thought it was just the newsreader and the director (or whoever) in the actual studio. Not sure if this is the case for the news channel though, as there are always various sounds in the background!


Sometimes there is a single camera operator for some bits (mainly the BBC One simulcasts) but otherwise there is just a floor manager in the studio with the presenters.

HOWEVER - in the current BBC studios the cameras are "remotes" not "robots". That means that they can be remotely panned, tilted, zoomed and focused, and elevated BUT they can't be tracked or crabbed (i.e. the pedestal doesn't move on its own) - so if the camera needs to move physically then a floor manager can re-position it "off shot" (i.e. when it is not on-air) or a camera operator can crab or track it "on shot" to give nice moves.

When the BBC News studios were on the 6th floor they had "robots" and the cameras could be remotely positioned - and moved around like daleks - and crab and track "on shot". However the costs of maintaining them and the health and safety issues were significant.


So are the Sky News cameras classed as robots then? As they can move around on their own? I take it that's the reason everything with people working on has a high raised platform?
NG
noggin Founding member

So are the Sky News cameras classed as robots then? As they can move around on their own?

Last I heard Sky News were still using robot peds - though AIUI they may not be running with as many HSE safeguards as the BBC did. (Anecdotally I've heard some horror stories about HSE at Osterley)

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I take it that's the reason everything with people working on has a high raised platform?


That's probably more a requirement to get decent presenter and guest eyelines. The robot peds don't go that low - and so you probably need to raise the presenters a bit on a rostrum to get the eyelines right - otherwise you end up shooting people from above, which looks horrible.

Having a specific area where they can operate is probably a good idea though.
TV
tvnerd
Looks like the set from the new star trek movie ...
Last edited by tvnerd on 23 September 2009 5:42pm
MI
Michael
Here's where my German A-level comes in useful: Claus said at the beginning : "TV studios can become nicer bigger and brighter; the world news unfortunately, not so."
JO
Joshua
Here's where my German A-level comes in useful: Claus said at the beginning : "TV studios can become nicer bigger and brighter; the world news unfortunately, not so."


Shocked
HC
Hatton Cross
The new font for the astons/graphics...

Looks very Channel 4..
Are Fontsmith now flogging that particular one?

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