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Ne1L C
Probably been asked before but what about Granada’s pan north coverage. I know they had a small studio in Leeds (and ABC had their own setup )

http://abcatlarge.co.uk/here-is-the-news/
RA
radiolistener
Markymark posted:
radiolistener posted:

You could argue further that Belmont should never have been reallocated to Yorkshire and both the BBC and ITV regions should have remained/joined the East. Lincolnshire has a lot more in common with Cambridgeshire than it does with Yorkshire and always has done.


Belmont BBC 1 has always been in their 'North' region. 1965 to 1969, that meant programmes from Manchester !


Yes, that's why I said 'joined'.
RA
radiolistener
Ne1L C posted:
radiolistener posted:
Ne1L C posted:
Oh I agree. As I said it was one of Greg Dyke’s ideas. At a risk of being accused of slipping into fantasy the only viable alternative would be a pan Yorkshire bulletin with the North Midlands subsumed into BBC Midlands and Lincolnshire added to BBC East (no idea how)


Lincolnshire, Cambridgeshire and North Norfolk?


Doesn't BBC East cover South Norfolk and Suffolk too?
radiolistener posted:
Ne1L C posted:
A unifying figure certainly helps (Paul Frost and Mike Neville spring to mind) but its the underlying format that's the issue. I've always found the notion of "news magazines" to be oxymoronic at worst and ineffective at best. Obviously 30 minutes doesn't give much room for manoeuvre but possibly a clearer split between news and magazine may be possible

Warning: Fantasy Schedule Ahead

6.30 to 6.40 News
6.40 to 6.45 Papers and weather
6.45 to 6.58 local interest

A sting could be used at 6.40

Just a thought


We forget that PL isn't a journalist, he's a presenter.


Maybe a 2-headed approach of PL being teamed with a journalist would be better?


They tried that at the beginning.
NL
Ne1L C
You’re right. Slipped my mind.
RA
radiolistener
Spencer posted:
radiolistener posted:
London Lite posted:
In an ideal world, Lincs would be served by Look East for the majority of the county, East Midlands Today for the area west of Lincoln bordering Notts and the Hull bulletin for NE Lincs, but thanks to the wonderful way that Belmont serves the whole of Lincs, plus East Yorkshire and North Norfolk, the unnatural affinity editorial area remains.

Like Victoria Derbyshire, Peter Levy has radio style delivery which is Marmite, so I understand where some people would rather have a presenter who delivers in a more traditional television news style, but the average viewer likes him.

On the rare occasions I've watched Look Levy, I can see why they use him as a personality who brings the unnatural editorial area together. If you can't get viewers to relate to news stories from Skeggy and Spalding to viewers in Hull, then at least have a personality presenter that they all enjoy.

It's not great, especially if you live in East Yorks with the lack of Yorkshire wide related news, but Hull has a better news service now that it ever did from Leeds.


You could argue further that Belmont should never have been reallocated to Yorkshire and both the BBC and ITV regions should have remained/joined the East. Lincolnshire has a lot more in common with Cambridgeshire than it does with Yorkshire and always has done.


I simply don’t see a region that includes East Yorkshire and Essex making any sense at all.



Well that was the Anglia region until 1974 and people complained they were losing it. Including in Hull.
SW
Steve Williams
radiolistener posted:
We forget that PL isn't a journalist, he's a presenter.


Nicky Campbell isn't a journalist, and has presented on the BBC's rolling news radio station for nearly 25 years. Simon Mayo isn't a journalist, and anchored 5 Live's coverage of 9/11. Geoff Lloyd isn't a journalist, and recently anchored 5 Live's coverage of Boris Johnson going into intensive care.

You don't hang around newsrooms for nearly forty years and learn nothing. He's as qualified as pretty much everyone else presenting regional news programmes on the Beeb and ITV.
RA
radiolistener
Steve Williams posted:
radiolistener posted:
We forget that PL isn't a journalist, he's a presenter.


Nicky Campbell isn't a journalist, and has presented on the BBC's rolling news radio station for nearly 25 years. Simon Mayo isn't a journalist, and anchored 5 Live's coverage of 9/11. Geoff Lloyd isn't a journalist, and recently anchored 5 Live's coverage of Boris Johnson going into intensive care.

You don't hang around newsrooms for nearly forty years and learn nothing. He's as qualified as pretty much everyone else presenting regional news programmes on the Beeb and ITV.


Campbell is a much better reporter and presenter than the old ladies favourite.
NL
Ne1L C
radiolistener posted:
Spencer posted:
radiolistener posted:

You could argue further that Belmont should never have been reallocated to Yorkshire and both the BBC and ITV regions should have remained/joined the East. Lincolnshire has a lot more in common with Cambridgeshire than it does with Yorkshire and always has done.


I simply don’t see a region that includes East Yorkshire and Essex making any sense at all.



Well that was the Anglia region until 1974 and people complained they were losing it. Including in Hull.


And that was due to a spat between Yorkshire and Tyne Tees over a transmitter.
RA
radiolistener
Ne1L C posted:
radiolistener posted:
Spencer posted:

I simply don’t see a region that includes East Yorkshire and Essex making any sense at all.



Well that was the Anglia region until 1974 and people complained they were losing it. Including in Hull.


And that was due to a spat between Yorkshire and Tyne Tees over a transmitter.


Does Emley Moor relay Tyne Tees at some frequency? Where I am in Eastern Nottinghamshire I can pick up YTV East, Leeds and Tyne Tees very easily (but ironically not Central.)
SP
Spencer
radiolistener posted:
Spencer posted:
radiolistener posted:

You could argue further that Belmont should never have been reallocated to Yorkshire and both the BBC and ITV regions should have remained/joined the East. Lincolnshire has a lot more in common with Cambridgeshire than it does with Yorkshire and always has done.


I simply don’t see a region that includes East Yorkshire and Essex making any sense at all.



Well that was the Anglia region until 1974 and people complained they were losing it. Including in Hull.


People always complain when anything changes. They probably just missed the spinning knight rather than being able to find out what was going on in Colchester.
MI
TheMike
radiolistener posted:
Ne1L C posted:
radiolistener posted:


Well that was the Anglia region until 1974 and people complained they were losing it. Including in Hull.


And that was due to a spat between Yorkshire and Tyne Tees over a transmitter.


Does Emley Moor relay Tyne Tees at some frequency? Where I am in Eastern Nottinghamshire I can pick up YTV East, Leeds and Tyne Tees very easily (but ironically not Central.)

No it doesn't. You're receiving Tyne Tees from Bilsdale in North Yorkshire which does reach quite a long way down the A1 corridor due to the lack of hills.
NL
Ne1L C
Which enables me to receive Tyne Tees in South Yorkshire.

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