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Andrew13,619 posts since 27 Mar 2001
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Since the Reith introduction I haven’t seen a presenter name caption on Look North Yorkshire.

I know who Amy Garcia is, but not everyone will.


Calendar went through a phrase of no name captions or presenter intro at the start of bulletins. It does seem odd if you ask me. Points West have adopted the chummy style of just introducing themselves by first names at the start of the main edition.


Is it just the evening programme where there are no name captions? I can’t say I’ve been paying much attention to this, but Clare Frisby was definitely captioned on Friday lunchtime.


Ian White is obviously reading this thread as in the absence of a name caption made a point of saying “welcome to Look North with me Ian White” on the bulletin yesterday.
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Robert Williams698 posts since 25 Jan 2003
London London
I thought the network CA did a "safe" announcement and they opted out with their own?


The safe CA is the one we hear on BBC1HD, and as you say London opts out of that for BBC1 SD in London?


No, there is no regional announcement at all. We get the network announcer and network ident on BBC1 in SD, with no mention of the London presenter.

There was only a relatively brief period during the balloons era that we did get a regional ident into the news, which in those days, of course, was the clock.
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Lou Scannon1,134 posts since 1 Jan 2016
HTV West Points West
I'm just recalling the era of bespoke announcements for the Sky Digital version of BBC One: "Now on BBC One, a choice of regional news. For your local programme, press "TV" and button "1" on your digital remote control. Or stay here for UK Today."
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Markymark6,882 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
I'm just recalling the era of bespoke announcements for the Sky Digital version of BBC One: "Now on BBC One, a choice of regional news. For your local programme, press "TV" and button "1" on your digital remote control. Or stay here for UK Today."


Yes, that was when BBC 1 had two separate playout arrangements (for England) one for the digital platforms, the other for analogue. The idea was that the platforms could have tailored announcements and trailers, for instance BBC Choice being plugged on digital but not analogue, but I don't think anything beyond the UK Today junction was ever routinely different?
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Inspector Sands13,692 posts since 25 Aug 2004

There was only a relatively brief period during the balloons era that we did get a regional ident into the news, which in those days, of course, was the clock.

Before the junction between national and regional news was done away with there had always been a regional South East and latterly London ident before the regional news. This even happened in the days before the South East could opt out, presentation had 'South East' versions of the BBC1 idents that were used at 6:30
buster1,762 posts since 15 Mar 2006
London London
I'm just recalling the era of bespoke announcements for the Sky Digital version of BBC One: "Now on BBC One, a choice of regional news. For your local programme, press "TV" and button "1" on your digital remote control. Or stay here for UK Today."


Yes, that was when BBC 1 had two separate playout arrangements (for England) one for the digital platforms, the other for analogue. The idea was that the platforms could have tailored announcements and trailers, for instance BBC Choice being plugged on digital but not analogue, but I don't think anything beyond the UK Today junction was ever routinely different?


You also had widescreen programmes being announced as such, though this was normally just put in before the channel name ("here on widescreen BBC One") or at the very end slightly awkwardly ("drama in Walford now on BBC One, it's EastEnders...in widescreen").

I do recall flicking around and seeing Choice promos often being dropped in when One/Two were being promoted on analogue, so it was done. Whether it was worth it or not...
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Inspector Sands13,692 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Yes, that was when BBC 1 had two separate playout arrangements (for England) one for the digital platforms, the other for analogue. The idea was that the platforms could have tailored announcements and trailers, for instance BBC Choice being plugged on digital but not analogue, but I don't think anything beyond the UK Today junction was ever routinely different?

As well as different trails, pointers and announcements they also often ran different versions of films - analogue showing a 4:3 pan and scan copy, and digital showing a widescreen copy*



I do recall flicking around and seeing Choice promos often being dropped in when One/Two were being promoted on analogue, so it was done. Whether it was worth it or not...

Worth remembering that it was also used to promote digital to analogue viewers too. No point doing that to those who already had it


There was more to it than just split promotions, the technology used in the digital tx area was newer and the established TX area (which wasn't that old at the time) was more resilient so they didn't really trust it to run the two main networks straight away. Plus the issues concerning how to do two different ratios and switching between them took a while to work out how to do from one suite. It was the BBC being a bit cautious basically.



*I remember one film on BBC1 whereby the widescreen version was presumably derived from the 4:3 version ... so digital viewers saw less picture
Lou Scannon1,134 posts since 1 Jan 2016
HTV West Points West
I think that it's mainly places on/near the north Norfolk coast that are readily considered to be in editorial Belmont-land (by BBC and ITV), as far east as Sheringham or possibly even Cromer (?).

King's Lynn is possibly the furthest-inland Norfolk settlement to be included.

I dunno whether the likes of Castle Rising, Dersingham or Little Walsingham are considered part of the patch? Surely not the likes of Fakenham though?

Isn't King's Lynn viewership divided between the Belmont ("Hull news") and Sandy Heath ("Cambridge news") transmitters' signals, meaning that no King's Lynn terrestrial viewers actually get the news programmes that you'd most expect ("Norwich news" / Tacolneston transmitter)?
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