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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

(August 2004)

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LS
Lou Scannon
JAS84 posted:
They still have that banter. "Good evening young man" is almost a catchphrase, Peter always says it when introducing Paul.


Yes, but from 70 odd miles away. Not as spontaneous as it was.


I'd be interested to know what you think the word spontaneous means.

It is equally possible to make a spontaneous remark to someone who is located on the other side of the world (e.g during a Skype chat), as it is to make a spontaneous remark to someone who is in the same room as you.

By virtue of the fact that Levy has been consistently saying "Good evening, young man" to Hudson since forever ago, it inherently isn't a spontaneous choice of words.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I think radiolistener may have been referring to the banter in general not being as good down the line as when they were sitting at the same desk in Leeds.
TJ
TedJrr

And to create a region that culturally doesn't work but practically covers a transmitter.


But, if there were two regions supported by Belmont, so a north and a south version; something was at one time proposed for ITV Bilsdale. Perhaps BBC1 took over the LDPS transmissions (ie the whole mux), and then there was the proposed Lincoln one as well.

What would happen?

Almost certainly any separate Belmont programmes would disappear. South would take East Midlands, and North probably Leeds, or a Hull/Sheffield combo.

It's easy to say that a TV region from Bridlington to Hunstanton doesn't or shouldn't work. But, it worked OK for Anglia, and they struggled financially when they lost it.

I often wonder what would have happened if Anglia haad retained Belmont?

Mad Grimsby Labour Party may well have selected Keith Kyle rather than Austin Mitchell in the 1977 by-election. The Tories would have won, meaning that the Callaghan government wouldn't have lasted as long as it did?

Cool When Anglia news went east/west, there'd have been a third region, possibly based in Hull rather than Norwich.

Shocked Trident TV would have been established, and couldn't be blown-away by the IBA. Yorkshire/Trident may well have merged with Granada years before YTT actually did.

Smile Anglia's profitability would have been higher, allowing it greater flexibility in the risks it could take with network output. Norwich could have remained as a television production centre through the ITV consolidations, possibly to the day.
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MA
Markymark

And to create a region that culturally doesn't work but practically covers a transmitter.


But, if there were two regions supported by Belmont, so a north and a south version; something was at one time proposed for ITV Bilsdale. Perhaps BBC1 took over the LDPS transmissions (ie the whole mux), and then there was the proposed Lincoln one as well.

What would happen?

Almost certainly any separate Belmont programmes would disappear. South would take East Midlands, and North probably Leeds, or a Hull/Sheffield combo.

It's easy to say that a TV region from Bridlington to Hunstanton doesn't or shouldn't work. But, it worked OK for Anglia, and they struggled financially when they lost it.

I often wonder what would have happened if Anglia haad retained Belmont?

Mad Grimsby Labour Party may well have selected Keith Kyle rather than Austin Mitchell in the 1977 by-election. The Tories would have won, meaning that the Callaghan government wouldn't have lasted as long as it did?

Cool When Anglia news went east/west, there'd have been a third region, possibly based in Hull rather than Norwich.

Shocked Trident TV would have been established, and couldn't be blown-away by the IBA. Yorkshire/Trident may well have merged with Granada years before YTT actually did.


I’ll add into this mix that the ITA mulled over the idea of allocating the Dover transmitter to Anglia, rather than Southern 😎
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NG
noggin Founding member


I’ll add into this mix that the ITA mulled over the idea of allocating the Dover transmitter to Anglia, rather than Southern 😎


Well that would have created a strip all the way down the East I guess - and East Kent has quite a lot in common with Essex (parts of which are in Anglia's patch...) Though not sure someone in Deal is that interested in Kings Lynn...
MA
Markymark


I’ll add into this mix that the ITA mulled over the idea of allocating the Dover transmitter to Anglia, rather than Southern 😎


Well that would have created a strip all the way down the East I guess - and East Kent has quite a lot in common with Essex (parts of which are in Anglia's patch...) Though not sure someone in Deal is that interested in Kings Lynn...


Quite ! Though Southampton is actually further from Deal than Kings Lynn (as the crow flies Cool )
LL
London Lite Founding member


I’ll add into this mix that the ITA mulled over the idea of allocating the Dover transmitter to Anglia, rather than Southern 😎


Well that would have created a strip all the way down the East I guess - and East Kent has quite a lot in common with Essex (parts of which are in Anglia's patch...) Though not sure someone in Deal is that interested in Kings Lynn...


Quite ! Though Southampton is actually further from Deal than Kings Lynn (as the crow flies Cool )


Reminds me of the period when South Today was extended to cover the Heathfield transmitter for some bizarre reason in the 90s which extended the coverage to south Kent and this was considered an 'improvement' over the Londoncentric Newsroom South East.
MA
Markymark

Well that would have created a strip all the way down the East I guess - and East Kent has quite a lot in common with Essex (parts of which are in Anglia's patch...) Though not sure someone in Deal is that interested in Kings Lynn...


Quite ! Though Southampton is actually further from Deal than Kings Lynn (as the crow flies Cool )


Reminds me of the period when South Today was extended to cover the Heathfield transmitter for some bizarre reason in the 90s which extended the coverage to south Kent and this was considered an 'improvement' over the Londoncentric Newsroom South East.


Wasn’t it from January 1993, which considering Meridian had just launched with three full sub regions thus making them even more ‘local’ than TVS had been, it was a bizarre thing for the Beeb to have done !
LL
London Lite Founding member

Quite ! Though Southampton is actually further from Deal than Kings Lynn (as the crow flies Cool )


Reminds me of the period when South Today was extended to cover the Heathfield transmitter for some bizarre reason in the 90s which extended the coverage to south Kent and this was considered an 'improvement' over the Londoncentric Newsroom South East.


Wasn’t it from January 1993, which considering Meridian had just launched with three full sub regions thus making them even more ‘local’ than TVS had been, it was a bizarre thing for the Beeb to have done !


I'm sure there was a South East edition of Coast to Coast for Heathfield, Dover and Bluebell Hill from TVS before the Meridian split? I seem to recall that was even a 'shoebox' edition of TVS News for Hannington viewers as well?
MA
Markymark

Reminds me of the period when South Today was extended to cover the Heathfield transmitter for some bizarre reason in the 90s which extended the coverage to south Kent and this was considered an 'improvement' over the Londoncentric Newsroom South East.


Wasn’t it from January 1993, which considering Meridian had just launched with three full sub regions thus making them even more ‘local’ than TVS had been, it was a bizarre thing for the Beeb to have done !


I'm sure there was a South East edition of Coast to Coast for Heathfield, Dover and Bluebell Hill from TVS before the Meridian split? I seem to recall that was even a 'shoebox' edition of TVS News for Hannington viewers as well?


Yes. TVS had a full separate opts for west and east, plus a shoe box sub opt on Hannington ( from Dec 8Cool and later Heathfield
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JA
JAS84

Cool When Anglia news went east/west, there'd have been a third region, possibly based in Hull rather than Norwich.

Anglia did have a Hull office back when it was part of their region. Oddly, it's not the same location YTV would later occupy, though it is nearby.
ST
South Today
JAS84 posted:

Cool When Anglia news went east/west, there'd have been a third region, possibly based in Hull rather than Norwich.

Anglia did have a Hull office back when it was part of their region. Oddly, it's not the same location YTV would later occupy, though it is nearby.


Oh really? I never knew that. Where abouts please? I wonder if there are any signs left of it. Although I doubt it all these years later. The previous YTV office is empty in Hull. Demolished in Sheffield.

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