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JAS843,961 posts since 26 Aug 2010
Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Forgive me if I'm massively wide of the mark here, but...

Wasn't there originally some BBC project-or-other that had something to do with phone lines or the internet or whatever (i.e. bugger all to do with the TV regional news programme) which was only meant to be for the Hull/E Yorks/Humberside area, but it didn't progress as planned for whatever reason so to save face for the money already thrown at BBC Hull they created a Belmont-only edition of Look North instead so that there was at least something to show for it?

I'm sure that I remember hearing something along the lines of the above, around the era that Look 'ULL was born. Might also explain why for non-news purposes (e.g. Inside Out, Sunday Politics) the original large Yorks & Lincs region remains intact, it's literally only Look North that was split.

Maybe Look 'ULL would be better scaled back to about the same level of sub-opt as Look East (Cambridge), now that sufficient "saving face" years have passed?

You're probably thinking of Kingston Interactive Television, a digital TV service run by Kingston Communications from 2000 to 2006.
https://itvt.com/story/739/kingston-interactive-television-cease-operations
http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber/bbci_hull/project_hull/
https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/kingston-interactive-television-kit-41724/
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Parker38 posts since 16 May 2019
Forgive me if I'm massively wide of the mark here, but...

Wasn't there originally some BBC project-or-other that had something to do with phone lines or the internet or whatever (i.e. bugger all to do with the TV regional news programme) which was only meant to be for the Hull/E Yorks/Humberside area, but it didn't progress as planned for whatever reason so to save face for the money already thrown at BBC Hull they created a Belmont-only edition of Look North instead so that there was at least something to show for it?

I'm sure that I remember hearing something along the lines of the above, around the era that Look 'ULL was born. Might also explain why for non-news purposes (e.g. Inside Out, Sunday Politics) the original large Yorks & Lincs region remains intact, it's literally only Look North that was split.

Maybe Look 'ULL would be better scaled back to about the same level of sub-opt as Look East (Cambridge), now that sufficient "saving face" years have passed?

You're probably thinking of Kingston Interactive Television, a digital TV service run by Kingston Communications from 2000 to 2006.
https://itvt.com/story/739/kingston-interactive-television-cease-operations
http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber/bbci_hull/project_hull/
https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/kingston-interactive-television-kit-41724/

It was the pet project of Greg Dyke, he was good friends with the then head of KC which is why the Beeb threw £24 million at it. Queens gardens was full of tech to get it to work, sadly there wasn't much talent there to provide the programming. The place was an ego fest at the beginning, it was downhill from there. A huge amount of money was wasted on an inappropriate building and silly decor.
..."at the first sign of danger my pussy's hairs stand on end" Betty Slocombe 27/05/1975
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Lou Scannon gave kudos
radiolistener672 posts since 8 Aug 2010

BBC ULL was a failure from the start but too much money was thrown at it to give it up and once created BBC people in management don't like giving up their little fiefdoms.


Something had to be done with the West Yorkshire centric pan regional Look North of the past, so made sense to have a new region produced from Hull.

Lincolnshire is the real issue with this editorial area based on transmitter coverage, some have an affinity with the East Midlands, others with the East of England. This had led to some interesting editorial decisions where they've covered health stories in Leicestershire as the Lincs audience are more likely to use hospitals in Notts or Leicestershire than in Hull and others from North Norfolk which has the stronger signal from Belmont than the BBC1 East/ITV Anglia relays on Freeview.


A 5 minute opt out would have sufficed. It worked for Calendar for years.
radiolistener672 posts since 8 Aug 2010
Forgive me if I'm massively wide of the mark here, but...

Wasn't there originally some BBC project-or-other that had something to do with phone lines or the internet or whatever (i.e. bugger all to do with the TV regional news programme) which was only meant to be for the Hull/E Yorks/Humberside area, but it didn't progress as planned for whatever reason so to save face for the money already thrown at BBC Hull they created a Belmont-only edition of Look North instead so that there was at least something to show for it?

I'm sure that I remember hearing something along the lines of the above, around the era that Look 'ULL was born. Might also explain why for non-news purposes (e.g. Inside Out, Sunday Politics) the original large Yorks & Lincs region remains intact, it's literally only Look North that was split.

Maybe Look 'ULL would be better scaled back to about the same level of sub-opt as Look East (Cambridge), now that sufficient "saving face" years have passed?

You're probably thinking of Kingston Interactive Television, a digital TV service run by Kingston Communications from 2000 to 2006.
https://itvt.com/story/739/kingston-interactive-television-cease-operations
http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber/bbci_hull/project_hull/
https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/kingston-interactive-television-kit-41724/

It was the pet project of Greg Dyke, he was good friends with the then head of KC which is why the Beeb threw £24 million at it. Queens gardens was full of tech to get it to work, sadly there wasn't much talent there to provide the programming. The place was an ego fest at the beginning, it was downhill from there. A huge amount of money was wasted on an inappropriate building and silly decor.


And to create a region that culturally doesn't work but practically covers a transmitter.
noggin14,375 posts since 26 Jun 2001

Maybe Look 'ULL would be better scaled back to about the same level of sub-opt as Look East (Cambridge), now that sufficient "saving face" years have passed?


Though Cambridge is now a full 30 minute opt at 1830 so there isn't a sub-opt at 1830 or 2225 (not sure if they are pan-regional at lunch time still)? Do you mean sharing Breakfast bulletins and non-News opts with Leeds?
m_in_m1,647 posts since 22 Apr 2006
Anglia (East) Look East

Maybe Look 'ULL would be better scaled back to about the same level of sub-opt as Look East (Cambridge), now that sufficient "saving face" years have passed?


Though Cambridge is now a full 30 minute opt at 1830 so there isn't a sub-opt at 1830 or 2225 (not sure if they are pan-regional at lunch time still)? Do you mean sharing Breakfast bulletins and non-News opts with Leeds?

Breakfast, Lunch and Weekends joint service from Norwich.
1830 and 2225 full split from Cambridge and Norwich.
Presenters shared e.g. Amelia will cover Cambridge at times and Amanda presents Sunday bulletin.

Christmas last year saw some bulletins come from Cambrudge instead of Norwich.
South Today2,735 posts since 10 Feb 2003

Maybe Look 'ULL would be better scaled back to about the same level of sub-opt as Look East (Cambridge), now that sufficient "saving face" years have passed?


Though Cambridge is now a full 30 minute opt at 1830 so there isn't a sub-opt at 1830 or 2225 (not sure if they are pan-regional at lunch time still)? Do you mean sharing Breakfast bulletins and non-News opts with Leeds?

Breakfast, Lunch and Weekends joint service from Norwich.
1830 and 2225 full split from Cambridge and Norwich.
Presenters shared e.g. Amelia will cover Cambridge at times and Amanda presents Sunday bulletin.

Christmas last year saw some bulletins come from Cambrudge instead of Norwich.


Although never Stewart and Susie appear on the west edition, which at one stage got a few comments on social media saying they were missed in ''the west''. Of course, understandably so! One of the best regional duos of well over two decades at the helm.
radiolistener672 posts since 8 Aug 2010

Though Cambridge is now a full 30 minute opt at 1830 so there isn't a sub-opt at 1830 or 2225 (not sure if they are pan-regional at lunch time still)? Do you mean sharing Breakfast bulletins and non-News opts with Leeds?

Breakfast, Lunch and Weekends joint service from Norwich.
1830 and 2225 full split from Cambridge and Norwich.
Presenters shared e.g. Amelia will cover Cambridge at times and Amanda presents Sunday bulletin.

Christmas last year saw some bulletins come from Cambrudge instead of Norwich.


Although never Stewart and Susie appear on the west edition, which at one stage got a few comments on social media saying they were missed in ''the west''. Of course, understandably so! One of the best regional duos of well over two decades at the helm.


As were Harry and Christa "in the East". I think Harry still gets tweets from people saying he is missed in Lincolnshire.

And to be fair what was also missed "old region" was the banter between Hudson and Levy at lunchtimes.