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(August 2004)

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TROGGLES
Viewer opinions are always a waste of airtime. Always either the blandest view, the most obvious knee jerk view, or a view that misunderstands whatever it is they are commenting on, and as it’s TV, there always has to be a balance of the blandest views on both sides.

That also goes for when they stop people in the street and ask for an opinion

They have to fill the airtime with something on the many light news days & viewers opinions are endless, especially as Look ULL specialise in asking leading questions. Anything else would require creativity and there is little encouragement or expertise to do that in ULL. Gawd knows what they are going to find to fill the new politics slot.

I see that they have ripped out all of the tacky orange/yellow lump things on the columns in the old reception and fitted it with a fly lighting rig.
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A former member
Look North Hull appear to be changing the start of the programme. Whether it's a trial or not I am not sure, but for presentation fans it truly is awful. A spinning box with words such as Contact, Share, Like in the bottom corner over the headlines and coming up sequence. With a sweeping view of the hardly ever used big screen showing the contact details that our Peter loves to read several times in a show.

He had an iPad as a prop to read one viewpoint half way through the show, but then reverted to printed ones at the end.

As much as I defend the programme for delivering a popular programme, this is really awful.

Just watched it via iPlayer - aesthetically, it’s not the worst thing a BBC regional news show has ever done. In fact, other than Peter practically pleading with the viewers to get in touch immediately, the whole thing flowed rather well.

Watching the first report though, which of course was full of vox-pops, I couldn’t help but wonder how many people they had to interview just to get enough people whose response was anything other than “I couldn’t care less”. I also wonder how selective they are in how they choose who makes it to air - heaven forbid someone should actually agree with whatever the council has supposedly done now.
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Spencer
Viewer opinions are always a waste of airtime. Always either the blandest view, the most obvious knee jerk view, or a view that misunderstands whatever it is they are commenting on, and as it’s TV, there always has to be a balance of the blandest views on both sides.

That also goes for when they stop people in the street and ask for an opinion


I've a feeling this may have been posted in another thread recently, but it sums it up rather nicely...



As for the spinning Contact/Share/Like box - I've just had a look on iPlayer. It strikes me as a bit of a try-hard attempt to be modern and trendy. The animation seems to jump badly at one point... or maybe it's meant to be like that. A bad idea, executed badly.
Lou Scannon and W1LL gave kudos
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Steve in Pudsey
In fact, other than Peter practically pleading with the viewers to get in touch immediately, the whole thing flowed rather well.

Watching the first report though, which of course was full of vox-pops, I couldn’t help but wonder how many people they had to interview just to get enough people whose response was anything other than “I couldn’t care less”. I also wonder how selective they are in how they choose who makes it to air - heaven forbid someone should actually agree with whatever the council has supposedly done now.


Anybody got that BBC Radio Countyshire spoof Jingle handy?
SP
Spencer
In fact, other than Peter practically pleading with the viewers to get in touch immediately, the whole thing flowed rather well.

Watching the first report though, which of course was full of vox-pops, I couldn’t help but wonder how many people they had to interview just to get enough people whose response was anything other than “I couldn’t care less”. I also wonder how selective they are in how they choose who makes it to air - heaven forbid someone should actually agree with whatever the council has supposedly done now.


Anybody got that BBC Radio Countyshire spoof Jingle handy?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/yp5hmyk2h6zzvku/BBC_Radio_Countyshire.mp3?dl=0 Wink
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Steve in Pudsey
Thanks, but it was the other one I was thinking of

Warbler, Spencer and TROGGLES gave kudos
JT
jolly turnip
Oh I love that!
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Steve in Pudsey
I believe that it and the news in that Spencer posted were both produced for a conference of Local Radio managers, to gently demonstrate the absurdity of what some stations were doing. Hence the in joke about the guy having DAB in his car, I think that was one of the station managers.

There was also a station logo produced in the style the BBC stations used at the time, with handwriting font used for the names of local places within the patch. It included the names of a few of the managers which could plausibly have been names of places.
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Andrew Founding member
Look North Hull appear to be changing the start of the programme. Whether it's a trial or not I am not sure, but for presentation fans it truly is awful. A spinning box with words such as Contact, Share, Like in the bottom corner over the headlines and coming up sequence. With a sweeping view of the hardly ever used big screen showing the contact details that our Peter loves to read several times in a show.

He had an iPad as a prop to read one viewpoint half way through the show, but then reverted to printed ones at the end.

As much as I defend the programme for delivering a popular programme, this is really awful.

Just watched it via iPlayer - aesthetically, it’s not the worst thing a BBC regional news show has ever done. In fact, other than Peter practically pleading with the viewers to get in touch immediately, the whole thing flowed rather well.

Watching the first report though, which of course was full of vox-pops, I couldn’t help but wonder how many people they had to interview just to get enough people whose response was anything other than “I couldn’t care less”. I also wonder how selective they are in how they choose who makes it to air - heaven forbid someone should actually agree with whatever the council has supposedly done now.


One of the problems with vox pops is that they are often done in a secondary town in the middle of the day, so the only opinions on offer come from either pensioners or unemployed chav types who shuffle about the town centre in the middle of the working day.

The ones they got on Barry Chuckle added nothing, three bland basic opinions, one even getting the name of his show wrong.
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Spencer
Thanks, but it was the other one I was thinking of



Fabulous - I’d not heard that one before.
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Spencer
There was also a station logo produced in the style the BBC stations used at the time, with handwriting font used for the names of local places within the patch. It included the names of a few of the managers which could plausibly have been names of places.


That reminds me of a story of when that branding was first introduced. Every BBC local radio station at the time had a matching leaflet, produced centrally, to promote its services, shows and presenters.

When it came to Radio Humberside, the proofs of the leaflet were signed off, with someone at the station having checked all the copy was correct.

What they failed to spot was that surrounding the BBC Radio Humberside logo, the place names in the scrawly, handwriting text were Leighton Buzzard, Welwyn Garden City, Dunstable, Letchworth, Stevenage...

It was only noticed after thousands of the leaflets were printed and delivered to Radio Humberside, and obviously had to be destroyed. I think it caused a fair amount of embarrassment, and people were told not to talk about it. Of course, everyone did.

I do wonder though if BBC Three Counties Radio had leaflets with Beverley, Grimsby, Hessle, etc. printed on them. Wink
Last edited by Spencer on 9 August 2018 9:46am
TROGGLES and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
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Inspector Sands
A good opportunity to post this:
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