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BA
bilky asko
It's an interesting one. Filey is certainly in Bilsdale's official service area, but then so are York and Harrogate which are very definitely considered to be Emley territory for editorial purposes.
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/bilsdale/maps.php

Looking at various maps and coverage predictors it seems that the people of Filey have a choice of all three Look North services, from Bilsdale, Hunmanby and Oliver's Mount, and a quick look at Street View suggests that lots of households have multiple aerials for that purpose

I suggest that if Sky defaults to Leeds, that is a pretty good indication of the BBC's intention in terms of which region is intended to primarily cover the area. And it makes sense - Filey is part of Scarborough, so local politics are going to be covered on the programme that covers Scarborough.

The anomaly seems to be why Oliver's Mount is a relay of Emley, which seems to be for historical reasons so as to replicate the 405 line service with the old YTV transmitter at Scarborough. It would perhaps make more sense for it to relay Bilsdale these days.


I'd disagree on "lots". I have looked (in person) before, and one street had as many houses with aerials in other directions as houses with an old squarial on it.

Tyne Tees have always covered Filey (it was one of the Bob Johnson's tide times). I'm sure all three Look Norths covered the floods in 2007.
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JAS84 posted:
Sorry to mention this for what feels like the thousandth time, but Filey is Bilsdale on DTT (virtually every aerial in the town points there, it gives the best signal, and both NE&C and Tyne Tees have always covered Filey). The Sky region is set to Look North Leeds.
No need to apologize. I did specifically ask about this, so thanks.



Non-region? But isn't the BBC Yorks and Lincs region almost the same as Humberside? Which means, it's the same region covered by the local police force and fire brigade? Which means even the government treat it as an actual region?

Quick history is that H++++side was dissolved in 1996 so it has been gone almost as long as its pitiful hated existence. Unlike the East Riding which can be dated to before Roman times. The H+++ ambulance service was abolished only the police Fire & radio station seem stuck in the past. Incidentally, the police cars have been rebranded & now say 'Policing Humber' on them.

I have never understood from any of the BBC management why they cling to the name. The excuse they always trot out is that they were there first (1971) but that in itself was a political creation because the government needed a unified area to justify building the bridge. It was only built because Labour looked to be losing its seat in Hull which would have brought down the government at the time...phew - oh the other reason that a BBC Hull explained was that 'they couldn't think of anything better! What a creative lot they are Very Happy
DV
dvboy
I guess one of the reasons the BBC - and emergency services - cling onto the name is that it's much less of a mouthful than "East Yorkshire, North Lincolnshire and North East Lincolnshire" (the rest of Lincolnshire having never been part of Humberside). The name makes sense geographically and could have worked for the BBC LR station as well as an informal name for the estuary area had the Local Government Act 1972 not redrawn the borders as it did, but it didn't go down well with East Yorkshire folk when used in an official capacity. I understand Radio Humberside is not especially popular south of the Humber in areas which are not in Radio Lincolnshire's editorial patch.
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dvboy posted:
I guess one of the reasons the BBC - and emergency services - cling onto the name is that it's much less of a mouthful than "East Yorkshire, North Lincolnshire and North East Lincolnshire" (the rest of Lincolnshire having never been part of Humberside). The name makes sense geographically and could have worked for the BBC LR station as well as an informal name for the estuary area had the Local Government Act 1972 not redrawn the borders as it did, but it didn't go down well with East Yorkshire folk when used in an official capacity. I understand Radio Humberside is not especially popular south of the Humber in areas which are not in Radio Lincolnshire's editorial patch.

Yes I agree, the radio station is in effect radio Hull - very downmarket and like Look Levy doesn't represent the area well at all. I remember when I returned to the area on annual leave a few months ago I switched on the local news to see Levy telling the viewers that a local cat had died - how they get away with it I just dont know.
RW
Robert Williams Founding member
Further up the North East coast there's BBC Tees (which is what Radio Cleveland changed to over a decade after that county was abolished). So how about BBC Humber or BBC Hull as alternative names for Radio Humberside?
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Steve in Pudsey
The local website used to be /humber didn't it?
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Yes, the brave new world lasted about a year if I recall. Very Happy
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dvboy
Further up the North East coast there's BBC Tees (which is what Radio Cleveland changed to over a decade after that county was abolished). So how about BBC Humber or BBC Hull as alternative names for Radio Humberside?


BBC Hull would alienate those on the south bank even more, but BBC Humber would work.
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JAS84
I have never understood from any of the BBC management why they cling to the name. The excuse they always trot out is that they were there first (1971) but that in itself was a political creation because the government needed a unified area to justify building the bridge. It was only built because Labour looked to be losing its seat in Hull which would have brought down the government at the time...
Seats plural - there's three.
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JAS84 posted:
I have never understood from any of the BBC management why they cling to the name. The excuse they always trot out is that they were there first (1971) but that in itself was a political creation because the government needed a unified area to justify building the bridge. It was only built because Labour looked to be losing its seat in Hull which would have brought down the government at the time...
Seats plural - there's three.

Yes, however, there was a by-election & It was a close run thing with what became Kevin McNamara's seat. It was marginal at the time and if Labour had lost, it would have brought down the government.
RA
radiolistener
dvboy posted:
I guess one of the reasons the BBC - and emergency services - cling onto the name is that it's much less of a mouthful than "East Yorkshire, North Lincolnshire and North East Lincolnshire" (the rest of Lincolnshire having never been part of Humberside). The name makes sense geographically and could have worked for the BBC LR station as well as an informal name for the estuary area had the Local Government Act 1972 not redrawn the borders as it did, but it didn't go down well with East Yorkshire folk when used in an official capacity. I understand Radio Humberside is not especially popular south of the Humber in areas which are not in Radio Lincolnshire's editorial patch.

Yes I agree, the radio station is in effect radio Hull - very downmarket and like Look Levy doesn't represent the area well at all. I remember when I returned to the area on annual leave a few months ago I switched on the local news to see Levy telling the viewers that a local cat had died - how they get away with it I just dont know.


The old Grandmas watching will no doubt be knitting cat shawls in response.

"Here you go little Peter, give it to the owners, love."
RA
radiolistener
dvboy posted:
Further up the North East coast there's BBC Tees (which is what Radio Cleveland changed to over a decade after that county was abolished). So how about BBC Humber or BBC Hull as alternative names for Radio Humberside?


BBC Hull would alienate those on the south bank even more, but BBC Humber would work.



BBC Radio Hull? They get away with it in Leeds and Scunthorpe and Grimsby are smaller than Bradford and 'Uddersfield.

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