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SW
Steve Williams
It was originally a regional programme on Friday nights iirc then got picked up by network. Presumably from a corner of the Look North studio.


Yes, and that was before the days of Network Production Centres when more or less any region could get programmes on the network. In those days there were opt-out slots on BBC1 which weren't just news but all kinds of things - Gardeners Direct Line was one of those, as you say, while Keith Floyd made his first shows through BBC Plymouth. Some of these programmes would get picked up by the network and the regions would carry on making them.

Sometimes there was rather a tenuous connection, though, basically based around where the producer was based. Barney Colehan, the producer of It's A Knockout and The Good Old Days, worked out of BBC Leeds but both those series were officially BBC Manchester productions. In some of the BBC Yearbooks they talk about Pebble Mill contributing to Match of the Day, but that was because one of their regular directors John McGonagle had an office at Pebble Mill and when he covered a match he used one of their crews. When he retired, that was it. Even BBC Elstree had a programme-making department for a bit.

When the BBC1 opt-outs ended in the mid-eighties, there was less requirement to produce every type of programme in the regions. But of course you could still make shows out of Leeds or Plymouth now, as an independent producer. Indeed you could argue the regions were basically the equivalent of the modern day indie in a way.
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MA
Markymark
It was originally a regional programme on Friday nights iirc then got picked up by network. Presumably from a corner of the Look North studio.


Yes, and that was before the days of Network Production Centres when more or less any region could get programmes on the network. In those days there were opt-out slots on BBC1 which weren't just news but all kinds of things - Gardeners Direct Line was one of those, as you say, while Keith Floyd made his first shows through BBC Plymouth. Some of these programmes would get picked up by the network and the regions would carry on making them.


BBC South's 'Hey Look That's Me' another example. As was The Beechgove Garden, from BBC Aberdeen (a sort of BBC region within a nation !)
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Top Gear is probably the most famous example of a regional programme gone national.
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RA
radiolistener
I have started to hate the phrase "Calendar Region".

Isn't it time to call it Yorkshire, in the way London used to include Reading and the South East in general?

I doubt the hundreds of thousands of people in Lincolnshire and North Notts will be very happy with that. Then again they've put up with Yorkshire Television/ITV Yorkshire since 1974.


That's why I said that having London Tonight or London Plus as titles for regional news haven't been a problem for those still in the area but not in London.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I have started to hate the phrase "Calendar Region".

Isn't it time to call it Yorkshire, in the way London used to include Reading and the South East in general?

I doubt the hundreds of thousands of people in Lincolnshire and North Notts will be very happy with that. Then again they've put up with Yorkshire Television/ITV Yorkshire since 1974.


That's why I said that having London Tonight or London Plus as titles for regional news haven't been a problem for those still in the area but not in London.


The main criticism about London regional news isn't the branding, rather the lack of news from the home counties, yet those areas have an affinity with London as the transmission area covers commuter towns. Calendar on the other hand covers a vast area, especially in the east which has no affinity to Yorkshire.
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JA
JAS84
I have started to hate the phrase "Calendar Region".

Isn't it time to call it Yorkshire, in the way London used to include Reading and the South East in general?

I doubt the hundreds of thousands of people in Lincolnshire and North Notts will be very happy with that. Then again they've put up with Yorkshire Television/ITV Yorkshire since 1974.

And I guess that transmitter swap was the reason the term was introduced in the first place.
FB
Fluffy Bunny Feet
Top Gear is probably the most famous example of a regional programme gone national.


"Calendar Countdown".
"The Way We Were" Yorkshire film archive series.
CI
cityprod
Top Gear is probably the most famous example of a regional programme gone national.


"Calendar Countdown".
"The Way We Were" Yorkshire film archive series.


Keith Floyd
Secret Nature
MA
Markymark
Top Gear is probably the most famous example of a regional programme gone national.


"Calendar Countdown".
"The Way We Were" Yorkshire film archive series.


Ah, well if we've increased the scope beyond the BBC, then, Tiswas [1]

[1] Yes, I know it was never fully networked
FB
Fluffy Bunny Feet
I have started to hate the phrase "Calendar Region".

Isn't it time to call it Yorkshire, in the way London used to include Reading and the South East in general?


No, London is different. Even though I lived near Reading at the time I associated myself with London as I grew up and worked there.
The hell that is London commuter-land covers a vast area as far as Oxford and beyond and therefore London news was relevant even though they lived 45-60 miles away - rightly or wrongly there's a bigger '"connect" than say Lincoln has to Leeds.
The "Calendar Region" is also not a geographical one of course which adds to the dilemma.
I'm not sure how else it can be described - I'm sure Granada has similar issues.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Calendar region is probably the best shorthand way of referring to their patch now that YTV region is awkward politically.
RA
radiolistener
Granada is different - it's referred to Granadaland. It's something substantial. Calendar was just a term for news output (and other regional output like Calendar Countdown).

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