The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

Humberside Police? Humberside Fire and Rescue? Humberside Airport?

And it is consistently referred to as BBC Yorkshire and Lincolnshire.

The river Humber definitely exists, therefore (never mind what exists in the form of political names)
it's perfectly permissible to refer to the land that is either side of the river, as 'Humber-Side'.

Which is one of the major problems as I said the BBC insists on using the old and hated 'H' name. The police are looking at changing to Humber police - that is if the forces are not combined to Yorkshire police first. Humberside airport is a throw back to the days when it was set up by the then council, there was talk of renaming it after a local figure, Liverpool John Lennon et al. The idea was quietly dropped by its then owners when they put it up for sale (there was considerable propaganda put about by the BBC that it should be called Peter Levy airport - only on Look Hull of course) The fire service cant be bothered about looking at the name they have enough political internal politics and wrangling to last a life time. As for everything else from the nasty political carve up of the 70's,it was done away with in 1996. Its the East Riding of Yorkshire once again & North & Northern Lincolnshire. Ceremonial counties of East Riding for the North bank, Lincolnshire for the south. The EU region is Yorkshire and the Humber. Because the BBC insist on the old 'H' name and refuse to change it, indeed changed the old Humber website to 'H' side. Because of this other parts of the BBC constantly slip up and confuse the rest of the country by using 'that' name. You would be surprised within the BBC just how many people say that it must exist because there is a website and a radio station.

Incidentally the radio station is supposed to cover the whole of the North bank and North Lincs. It actually is an estuary based radio station and only serves the needs of Hull, Scunthorpe, Grimsby and occasionally Goole, It has few supporters from the rest of the East Riding & Lincs.

Humberside has as much accuracy and validity as Humberbanks, Humberland or Humberville - it doesn't exist and thank god the 'county only existed for 21 years

Sara Thornton with Look North weather this morning

So by that logic nobody can claim to live in Yorkshire, seeing as that was done away with.

It's not as if when a name falls out of use that it is expunged from history and our vocabulary, and is therefore meaningless. Humberbanks never existed; Humberville never existed; Humberland has not yet opened as a theme park - it's just you twisting the facts to fit your agenda.

Would BBC Radio Hull be preferable to Humberside?

And it was launched three years before Humberside was created in 1974 anyway. Course, they also persisted with Radio Cleveland for a decade or more after Cleveland was abolished. You would assume they could rename it Radio Humber, but it doesn't seem much a priority. I still get regular letters addressed to South Humberside, so it's hardly the Beeb alone persisting with it. Well, we already knew that anyway.

Well, there's still BBC Radio Berkshire too

Don't know where the twisting is. The will of most people, if you ask about, is they are well rid of the 'H' name and can't understand why it occasionally appears. I still live in the East Riding (at weekends) and I grew up there - I remember the signs being peppered with shot or painted over. This hasn't happened to the East Riding signs. The thing was hated from the beginning and most people were glad to be shot of it. A few cling to it for political reasons but that's about it. There is an interesting book to read by one of the guys who organised the Humber bridge in terms of getting the bill through parliament and financing. I interviewed him years ago. He said that the only way to make the bridge viable (so Barbara castle could save the west Hull seat for labour) was to dump the responsibility of financing it on to a large local authority. The BBC were encouraged to create a radio station for the estuary and smooth the way for the creation of a county. If you have a look at the actual records its all there & makes interesting reading especially for anyone interested in studying politics. The civil service are a shifty bunch even in those days. As for the BBC's continual use, my particular objection is that it misleads the rest of the country into thinking the place exists. Its inaccurate and therefore breaks the guidelines. I really would like to know what the agenda is to keep the name going via the BBC - other than pig headed BBC management that is.

Presumably it's seen as a shorter and equally accurate version of BBC Radio East Riding of Yorkshire and Northern Lincolnshire. It's only as misleading as the Welcome to Yorkshire campaign's name - it's all to do with history. All it boils down to is that you don't like the name.

Just rediscovered this lovely tribute from Calendar and the Beeb on the death of Richard Whiteley

Look North (Leeds) are actually showing promos for the show with new presenter Amy Garcia. The endboard however does use the standard BBC endboard, but the font is Helvetica.