JT
From Belmont - Leeds Look North on digital, but Hull Look North on terrestrial this evening, something amiss.
FB
Ok, so a typo on the bulletin. Big deal I've seen far worse elsewhere. BBC Breakfast's cso fell over this week but did'nt feel obliged to slag it off. These things happen. BBC LN Breakfast regularly has wrong captions. As for Lisa I think she's fine. Why should presenters disguise an accent?
Oh and it's Kate Walby noy Welby.
And if we're getting personal why does Clare Frisby not sit straight and continues to say "gonna be" instead of "will be"?
And where is this "Middlesborouh" place they had on a sport caption?
Looking at the bulletin, Lisa Walton reminds me of other regional news bulletins readers I've encountered across the network these days - poor enunciation and little in the way of disguising a strong local accent. I can't speak for Kate Welby as I can't find any clips in the usual places to demonstrate her presenting skills.
Looking at the bulletin, Lisa Walton reminds me of other regional news bulletins readers I've encountered across the network these days - poor enunciation and little in the way of disguising a strong local accent. I can't speak for Kate Welby as I can't find any clips in the usual places to demonstrate her presenting skills.
Ok, so a typo on the bulletin. Big deal I've seen far worse elsewhere. BBC Breakfast's cso fell over this week but did'nt feel obliged to slag it off. These things happen. BBC LN Breakfast regularly has wrong captions. As for Lisa I think she's fine. Why should presenters disguise an accent?
Oh and it's Kate Walby noy Welby.
And if we're getting personal why does Clare Frisby not sit straight and continues to say "gonna be" instead of "will be"?
CB
Proof reading is notoriously difficult, even more so if you've got a deadline to meet.
If you've never seen this before I'll give you an extreme example of how spelling mistakes can be missed.....
I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too.
Therefore, as you can see, typos can easilly be missed.
If you've never seen this before I'll give you an extreme example of how spelling mistakes can be missed.....
I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too.
Therefore, as you can see, typos can easilly be missed.
FB
Exactly my point.
In the modern industry these days we do not not have several pairs of eyes looking and checking stuff.
These days some reporters research, phone bash, drive themselves to location, shoot material themselves and travel back to base. They then edit the item and fill in subtitles for the entire item. It's no wonder therefore that occassionally a typo occurs.
I don't remember there being typos when captions were generated by dedicated graphics operators using systems like aston etc. Just because journalists enter this information into the system themselves doesn't excuse not proof reading what they have entered.
Exactly my point.
In the modern industry these days we do not not have several pairs of eyes looking and checking stuff.
These days some reporters research, phone bash, drive themselves to location, shoot material themselves and travel back to base. They then edit the item and fill in subtitles for the entire item. It's no wonder therefore that occassionally a typo occurs.
JT
Who was doing the weather on LN Yorkshire at lunch? Assume whoever she was was from London. Ian White was newsreading.
On LN Hull we just got Jo Makel reading it out.
On LN Hull we just got Jo Makel reading it out.
SP
She was also on BBC North West, so very probably from London.
I think Keeley was covering for Sarah in Hull for at least part of this week, so they might be a bit short handed for the weekend.
I think Keeley was covering for Sarah in Hull for at least part of this week, so they might be a bit short handed for the weekend.
NG
Yep - though even then the astons were only as good as the operators in the chain. Two people typing on two keyboards also increases the chances of typos.
In many traditional galleries there would have been :
Producer/Assistant Producer who typed the aston request (or hand wrote it)
Production Assistant/Script Supervisor who will have put the aston request in a script (or seen it there and also looked at it), and will also have seen the caption on a screen in the gallery during transmission before it was aired, as well as counting to the aston time if it was tied to a specific point in a VT/film.
Graphics Operator who will have actually typed the aston into the Aston machine
Director who will have seen the aston request in the script and looked at it, and also previewed it before directing it to air
Vision Mixer who will have transitioned the keyer to put the aston on air.
Now - in many systems the journalist enters the aston and an aston time and the graphic will be automatically generated, and keyed on-screen automatically at the time the journalist has entered, with no preview by anyone.
noggin
Founding member
I don't remember there being typos when captions were generated by dedicated graphics operators using systems like aston etc. Just because journalists enter this information into the system themselves doesn't excuse not proof reading what they have entered.
Yep - though even then the astons were only as good as the operators in the chain. Two people typing on two keyboards also increases the chances of typos.
In many traditional galleries there would have been :
Producer/Assistant Producer who typed the aston request (or hand wrote it)
Production Assistant/Script Supervisor who will have put the aston request in a script (or seen it there and also looked at it), and will also have seen the caption on a screen in the gallery during transmission before it was aired, as well as counting to the aston time if it was tied to a specific point in a VT/film.
Graphics Operator who will have actually typed the aston into the Aston machine
Director who will have seen the aston request in the script and looked at it, and also previewed it before directing it to air
Vision Mixer who will have transitioned the keyer to put the aston on air.
Now - in many systems the journalist enters the aston and an aston time and the graphic will be automatically generated, and keyed on-screen automatically at the time the journalist has entered, with no preview by anyone.