The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

With the regional news shifted to BBC TWO analogue, looks like there's a pan-regional Look North for Yorkshire and Lincolnshire with 'Arry and the Oompa Loompa and no trace of Levy at all...

EDIT: Posted this before reading Steve in Pudsey's message about Hull not being able to do analogue opt-outs.

Its brilliant - the first proper news programme for East Yorkshire in years. Proper news, local sport (Yorkshire cricket), a resemblance of professionally made news items and suddenly we are all connected back up to the news we have missed since LUK ULL emerged.

No escaping budgies, no mincing presentation & no amatuerish reporting.

Put Murray on every night if this gives East Yorkshire a decent news service.

Or you could switch ITV1 on at 6pm

Hmm, steve doesn't know how the opt out system works. Hull can perform all the opts that Leeds can. It's the same system. Leeds has separate feeds to Belmont and Emley for BBC1, but only 1 feed for BBC2 going to both. You therefore cannot split BBC2 into 2 separate opts. Hull could have opted just as easily as Leeds on BC2. It's an editorial decision, not a technical one.

What you mean is that EITHER Hull or Leeds could have opted out on BBC Two - but not both at the same time.

You are saying that Leeds has three circuits - BBC One Belmont, BBC One Emley and BBC Two Belmont+Emley. Hull's studio output is fed via Leeds to the BBC One Belmont transmitter feed that viewers of the Hull region watch, and Leed's local studio output is fed to the BBC One Emley transmitter feed that the viewers of the Leeds region watch.

However as Leeds can only route a single feed to both BBC Two Belmont and BBC Two Emley transmitters they had to chose whether to broadcast Leeds or Hull's local programme on BBC Two in both regions.

They could just as easily have chosen Hull - but didn't for editorial reasons. (They could also have done 13'00" or so each back to back - which would have made running orders fun...)

I wonder if BBC London News were constantly reminding viewers outside their patch to switch to analogue BBC Two - if they still had it...

I may have paraphrased it, but I don't think I was too wrong!

Presumably the 'editorial decision' was made because there was no way that anyone else would allow the rubbish which eminates from Hull anywhere else on the network.

can't find your original post, but 'hull can't do analogue opts' isn't correct.

I think the original post was to the effect that Hull can't opt on BBC2 analogue, by which I implied that they can't opt *only* on Belmont.

More or less the same in Oxford. Oxford and Southampton can opt independently or pan-regionally on BBC One, but only pan-regional opts are possible on BBC Two from either station. South Today was shown across the whole of the region on Friday and contained several items from the Oxford running order and an explanation from Sally Taylor at the start.

Editorially I suspect the same approach was used in Cambridge - though AIUI the only way of Cambridge getting onto BBC Two in the East would be to feed their output to Norwich, and for Norwich to opt-out with that feed. I don't think Cambridge have remote opt-control facilities nor remote routing. (I.e. it would require someone in Norwich to do stuff?)

Leave it alone eh?

Yes a couple of years ago I would have agreed with you, but gradually the content has improved, the new set has made things look far more professional and actually it is a more newsier programme than Leeds these days. I do have reservations still about Levy's interviewing, but that aside I think that Leeds viwers may look at Hull's programme with a little envy