The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

I'm not taking it seriously, but it is boring. Perhaps you should just admit you are over egging it somewhat.

As for not visiting this thread, well it happens to be a thread about Yorks & Lincs, and believe it or not there is media in the region outside of Levy Land. And as I've frequented the thread for so long I see no reason to stop doing so now.

If you want a Levyism thread why not start one, and you can share your witty observations all you like. But what you are presenting before us here are NOT "levyisms", they are figures of everyday speech.

I don't see why Levyisms cannot be part of this thread - freedom of speech and all that. Perhaps the rest of Yorks & Lincs has such perfect regional programming and presenters that the only thing to post about is Look ULL.

If not perhaps people should get posting! - Strong words I know... sorry sorry its getting to me

I think the problem is that for the past year at least, this thread has been a daily repetition of...

"Peter Levy was really sh*t last night"
"Yes, I think he's sh*t too."
"I also think he's sh*t."
"Did you see that bit where he was really sh*t?"
"He had a sh*t guest on the line."
"BBC Hull is a waste of sh*tting money."
"He said that same sh*t phrase."

So everyone is agreed that the programme's sh*t.

There. That's that sorted. Now let's move on, and as a radical idea, why not do something else at 6.30pm every day instead of watching a programme you think is sh*t? Learn calligraphy, basketweaving or macrame for example, or maybe experiment with some new, untried sexual fetishes.

Then maybe this thread can return to the good old days of discussing Christa's boobydoos and aesthetically displeasing frocks.

Also explains why Tom S did a pan-Yorks & Lincs weather report on Breakfast yesterday.

My previous post was meant in good humour (hence smilies and winks). I thought you might take it in the way it was intended; obviously I misjudged you, and I was wrong. For that I sincerely apologise. Of course you can come on this thread, it's entirely up to you-- who am I to stop you.

"It's getting tiresome/it's boring", well that's actually your opnion rather than fact-- many of us on here enjoy taking the mick out of Levy. Without meaning to sound rude, you don't actually own these threads, so who are you to dictate discourse on them? You can offer your opinions on the thread sure; but I think to lecture people just makes you come across as needlessly hostile or at worse self-righteous.

I feel if you don't like the Levy jibes, then skip through them, you don't have to read them. If you don't like the Levyisms full stop; then watch Calendar instead, or you could write a letter of complaint to BBC Hull

As for the "everyday speech" argument, I believe that's where catchphrases come most of the time surely? For instance the phrase "I'm free" wasn't made up just for Are You Being Served -- it came from everyday language. By definition phrases become catchphrases when they are over-used by a person or institution,as is the case with Levyisms and the man himself.

Now Square Eyes, if you think I'm going to now get involved in some tit-for-tat exchange over the wherefores of Levy-bashing to justify (what I consider to be) your bah-humbug attitude-- then you would be mistaken.

I know your opinions on the matter, you know mine-- I hope you are good enough to agree to disagree on the matter.

no, it is boring, well, when you and brotherton sands get going anyway.

atleast troggles and alf garnet and many of the other regulars who post here are actually funny. however you and brotherton are really flogging a dead horse

I see your point SFH, and it is a fair point-- I like your style! I think satire and having a GSOH about things is so much more pleasant and helpful than getting too pious about things. However.... (!)

On a serious note, this is an open forum, we all have the right to reply. Especially considering that LNH is a programme funded by the licence-fee, and we have our right to complain.

To be fair we don't just say "LNH is sh*te" or the variations you give above. We do tend to give reasoning why it's sh*te!

OK it could be worse and we could have a blank screen on BBC1 for half-an-hour in the Belmont TX area each weekday; you can also remark that LNH somehow manages to beat Calendar in ratings -- but that's beside the point. I maybe wrong, but isn't it in PSB requirements for the BBC to provide proper regional news in the regions?

I would say that passing off members of BBC staff as members of the public is not proper journalism, nor having a fluffy radio DJ fronting a so-called news programme isn't that professional either. I would agree it's a journalists job.

As Troggles pointed out, the Levyisms serve to highlight how woeful Levy's interviewing/presenting style is for the reasons Troggles highlighted. I think a proper journalist would make a much better job of things.

I don't feel that concentrating an unbalanced amount of airtime on just one part of the region (IE Hull) is acceptable-- the floods were a good example of this bias. The region ostensibly covers western Norfolk, when was the last time we heard a story from King's Lynn or Hunstanton? If you watch BBC EMT, you see that they take great care to cover stories from right across its editorial area-- there is no obvious bias to Nottingham I can see.

And how many BBC regional news programmes regularly feature sing-songs at the end of the programme? It's a news/weather/sport programme, not MTV!

I reliably hear this thread is often monitored by those in the biz. I think it would be very easy for us to do the 'British' thing, and grumble to ourselves at home over the programme.

At least by posting criticism (especially constructive criticism) on here our grievances are in the public. We can say we have done something proactive to try and change things.

Maybe I'm going to be a tad optimistic here; but you never know, some clever-thinking producer or editor might look at this thread and it might make he/she consider a few changes

*radical idea* watch east midlands today then

Again that's actually your opinion, not fact. What you, I or anybody else considers "boring" or "funny" is a matter of taste. You can't say that something is/isn't boring or funny as if it's irrefutable fact, like 2+2=4.

OK you might find it boring, as may others, that's fine-- your opinions. Some of us can see the funny side of Levy etc, sorry that you can't cope with that.

I really think a few people around here need to start learning the difference between "opinion" and "fact" before lecturing other people. I think at best stating your opinion as fact makes you look overbearing; at worst it just makes you sound like a self-righteous stuffed-shirt.

Sorry to be blunt, but that's the way I see things. I always respect your views TVMercia, no matter how pious I may think you can be; I would hope you might respect others' opinions.

If you really can't bear free speech or that somebody might actually disagree with you on something (ye gods), then why come on these threads?

At least people like Brotherton Sands come on here to share their opinions in a considerate, assertive and good-humoured way; without jumping down the throats of those who disagree. You might find BS boring, but I'd rather listen to BS's intelligent observations than your moralising homilies.

I'm sorry to be personal; but if you are going to launch ad hominem attacks on me, I think it's justified.

PS: I do often watch BBC EMT as it happens. But just for a wry laugh, I also watch BBC LNH. It's up to me what I watch thank you

I agree with the comments, it'd be nice if people could discuss the other 3 regional news programmes that broadcast to this area for once

I think we've kind of got the idea with Look North Hull

Strong words there.

*YAWN* Opinion vs Fact.

Roger Mellie, it is a matter of your "opinion" that I was stating my view as "fact".

I was doing no such thing. Whenever I speak on these boards, I speak from my own perspective, I do not claim to speak for the majority. If others agree with me, great. If they don't agree with me, equally, great. It doesn't mean I'm not going to say it.

I am saying that it is boring, I suggested perhaps a dedicated Levyism thread might be preferable. Ok, you don't accept that. Fine. However that the "Levyisms" have run their course appears to be an "opinion" that some others here appear to share. That is fact.