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2019 General Christmas election.

12th December: NO drama just presentation. (October 2019)

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BM11


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A former member
Here is SKY NEWS promo:

https://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/sky-news/the-brexit-election-sky-news-promo-2019-217575/
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Ne1L C
Precisely. This is one of those awkward areas (and there are many) where presentation and politics clash. The broadcasters are playing it safe.
AJ
AJ
Sky News' election night coverage is coming from Gallery 4 at Sky Studios with Sky Central's "Innovation Centre" (basically the mezzanine opposite the GB I believe!) being used as a presentation area. Lighting rig is going up in the middle of this month with rehearsals at the end of the month.


Nope. The innovation centre is the thing underneath the glass box. Not opposite.
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Andrew Founding member
It’s a bit controversial calling it ‘The Brexit Election’ when it’s supposedly about a lot more than that.

Regarding the Lib Dem’s debate issue. Surely within the remit of being fair and balanced, lines can be drawn at certain places in the list of parties and you can still be fair. For example Labour and Conservatives appear on Question Time every single week, but the other parties don’t, even coverage from Westminster on the news channel often pulls away once the main two have given their statements.
BBI45, itsrobert and Brekkie gave kudos
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Square Eyes Founding member
It’s a bit controversial calling it ‘The Brexit Election’ when it’s supposedly about a lot more than that.


Not controversial when we are only having the election because of Brexit. So understandable to have it framed in that context.
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The SNT Three
It's a key issue for sure, but certain parties are trying to fight the election on a broader ticket than just Brexit. For Sky News to frame it in that promo as 'the Brexit election' kind of legitimises the idea that people should vote for a party exclusively on the basis of their Brexit policy!
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Brekkie
It’s a bit controversial calling it ‘The Brexit Election’ when it’s supposedly about a lot more than that.


Not controversial when we are only having the election because of Brexit. So understandable to have it framed in that context.

But rightly or wrongly the tactic of the leader of the opposition appears to be framing it as anything but.


Debate wise I think there are still no formal rules around them hence the problems, especially as UK politics is so much more fragmented than it was a decade ago.

Personally think there is a place for a head to head debate and when you go beyond that it becomes even more questionable where the line is drawn. Having 10% of MPs seems a reasonable place, but the Lib Dems would argue 10% of the vote is too.
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Jon
chris posted:
Jon posted:
I don't think its a deliberate snub to Jo Swinson. In all honesty Corbyn and Johnson are the only reasonable candidates for Prime Minister and its received wisdom to have a debate between the two.

But that’s all subjective though and electoral broadcasting regulations can’t be subjective. By the way I’m not commenting on whether this decision is in line with the regulations or not, just making the point it’s not a case of the broadcaster basing the decision on what they see as the likely outcome.


It’s not subjective - it’s based on fact. The broadcasters base their coverage on current polling and recent electoral performance. There are no indicators on either to suggest Swinson will be our next prime minister.


chris posted:
Jon posted:
I don't think its a deliberate snub to Jo Swinson. In all honesty Corbyn and Johnson are the only reasonable candidates for Prime Minister and its received wisdom to have a debate between the two.

But that’s all subjective though and electoral broadcasting regulations can’t be subjective. By the way I’m not commenting on whether this decision is in line with the regulations or not, just making the point it’s not a case of the broadcaster basing the decision on what they see as the likely outcome.


It’s not subjective - it’s based on fact. The broadcasters base their coverage on current polling and recent electoral performance. There are no indicators on either to suggest Swinson will be our next prime minister.

My point is broadcasters have to act within electoral law, they can’t make the decisions based purely what would be the best debate or who they think will win. Decisions have to be made inline with a set of guidelines.
London Lite and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
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London Lite Founding member
The Lib Dems are using the Ofcom Code of Conduct against ITV in their legal case.



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What about the BBC? Code of conduct just say Equal air time..
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all new Phil
Is it so unreasonable to have one debate between the leaders of the two parties who, between them, got over 80% of votes at the last election?

If the Lib Dems take part on the basis of their current polling, the Brexit Party should too.

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