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KA
Katherine Founding member
Pootle5 posted:
If you live on or close to the coast, or a "thin" bit of the UK like Cornwall it may be ok - but to pinpoint exactly where you are in the Midlands is impossible (particularly as they keep missing Birmingham off the maps)


Um - Jay Wynne (and probably a few others) HAVE started putting Birmingham on the maps.....
PO
Pootle5
Katherine posted:
Pootle5 posted:
If you live on or close to the coast, or a "thin" bit of the UK like Cornwall it may be ok - but to pinpoint exactly where you are in the Midlands is impossible (particularly as they keep missing Birmingham off the maps)


Um - Jay Wynne (and probably a few others) HAVE started putting Birmingham on the maps.....



Good.
NE
News24
scottish posted:
Has anyone else noticed that the n24 presenters are a lot chummier with their weather colleagues than before. Instead of just handing over to the forecasters (and basically telling them to get on with it) - there is more interaction between them - best example being the now legendary figure of Sir Daniel of Corbett
Razz


It depends on whether the forecast is live or not. Most of the time, the forecast is prerecorded, in some cases a couple of hours earlier. Hence the lack of 2 way interaction except "hello". You can always tell when the weather is live on News 24 because the forecaster will say something specific or mention a presenter by name. More often than not they put them on the screen in the studio when they are live too.
NS
NickyS Founding member
News24 posted:
scottish posted:
Has anyone else noticed that the n24 presenters are a lot chummier with their weather colleagues than before. Instead of just handing over to the forecasters (and basically telling them to get on with it) - there is more interaction between them - best example being the now legendary figure of Sir Daniel of Corbett
Razz


It depends on whether the forecast is live or not. Most of the time, the forecast is prerecorded, in some cases a couple of hours earlier. Hence the lack of 2 way interaction except "hello". You can always tell when the weather is live on News 24 because the forecaster will say something specific or mention a presenter by name. More often than not they put them on the screen in the studio when they are live too.

Since the new gfx and new shift patterns there are many more live N24 weather broadcasts hence the interaction. Used to be like that all the time.
GE
thegeek Founding member
News24 posted:
Someone commented a yesterday or the day before that the land mass looked slightly greener than the boring brown colour - this was put down to the contrast settings on the TFT monitor in the national news studio.
It's a back-projection, not a TFT.

NickyS posted:
Since the new gfx and new shift patterns there are many more live N24 weather broadcasts hence the interaction. Used to be like that all the time.
I remember that most of the N24 weather forecasts were live, until a year or so ago, when they began being mostly prerecorded, possibly due to union rules or something - has there been a change here?
MA
Marcus Founding member
thegeek posted:
News24 posted:
Someone commented a yesterday or the day before that the land mass looked slightly greener than the boring brown colour - this was put down to the contrast settings on the TFT monitor in the national news studio.
It's a back-projection, not a TFT.

NickyS posted:
Since the new gfx and new shift patterns there are many more live N24 weather broadcasts hence the interaction. Used to be like that all the time.
I remember that most of the N24 weather forecasts were live, until a year or so ago, when they began being mostly prerecorded, possibly due to union rules or something - has there been a change here?


It was down to a disagreement between weather ans News about how much news would pay for the live weathers. Presumably they have reached some agreement
DU
Dunedin
marksi posted:
Dunedin posted:
I totally agree with dropping isobars and spending more time giving the weather.


If you understood them isobars and fronts would tell you a hell of a lot more about the weather than any blobs of virtual rain ever could. It'd be like saying you didn't need to give out the FTSE 100 or currency information on the financial news that you are keen on.


katherine posted:
What ARE you on about? Isobars ARE weather! They are an integral part of it!


Look- anyone sensible knows that tight isobars = high winds etc. Anyone with basic knowledge knows what high and low pressure ROUGHLY means for the forecast.

But ask yourself this- do the isobars mean anything by themselves ?

NO

The weather map (i.e. cloud, rain, wind etc) is STILL needed to give you your apparently ACCURATE forecast.

Therefore why waste time with the former when you're going to have to show the latter as an interpretation anyway.

So your analogy with the business news is unsurprisingly flawed- you will of course realise that finanical indices, currencies and news are 3 mutually exclusive entities.

Presumably though marksi, you now agree that the new weather forecasts are a huge step back for the BBC?
AD
Adam
Dunedin posted:

But ask yourself this- do the isobars mean anything by themselves ?


Yes. I always go directly to the Isobar/Pressure chart on BBC Weather, and sometimes don't look at any other pages. Isobars rarely lie.
DU
Dunedin
Marcus posted:
thegeek posted:
News24 posted:
Someone commented a yesterday or the day before that the land mass looked slightly greener than the boring brown colour - this was put down to the contrast settings on the TFT monitor in the national news studio.
It's a back-projection, not a TFT.

NickyS posted:
Since the new gfx and new shift patterns there are many more live N24 weather broadcasts hence the interaction. Used to be like that all the time.
I remember that most of the N24 weather forecasts were live, until a year or so ago, when they began being mostly prerecorded, possibly due to union rules or something - has there been a change here?


It was down to a disagreement between weather ans News about how much news would pay for the live weathers. Presumably they have reached some agreement


This is a complete waste of money.

Given the average viewer tunes in for about 10 minutes per week , why spend the money redoing the same forecast live every half hour?

It would be like re-editing every news package every hour- it's just not worth the effort (and money) given that 99% of your viewing audience WON'T have been viewing the last effort.

How can they justify cutting 15% off the news budget whilst throwing more money at extra weather presenters and rather useless new graphics....'tis somewhat baffling.

Actually slightly worrying. Heads should roll.
PB
PremiumBrand
I don't like the new graphics, they're too "commercial channel" for me.

Another thing, I stay way up north in Scotland and can barely see what the weather is like up where I am. In their bid to make things clearer they've done the opposite. It's less clear the further up the country you are.
BR
Brekkie
PremiumBrand posted:
I don't like the new graphics, they're too "commercial channel" for me.


I've missed a few pages, so sorry if I'm repeating comments:

According to MediaGuardian ITV were offered these and rejected them!

They also say an early day motion has been made in Parliament demanding they are withdrawn.
TW
Time Warp
yeah, already mentioned somewhere a little while ago.

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