MA
You've hit the nail on the head (apart from the embarassing spelling mistake!).
We're not weather-experts or interested in pressure charts, isobars or thermals.
For someone who has no interest in the weather you don't half like expressing an opinion on it. Don't judge everyone else by your own standards.
I think my comment speaks for the majority of the population
I don't think it does actually. Modesty's really not your thing, is it?
Should the BBC be catering for the lowest common denominator? I've been through all this before, but briefly, again - you may not be able to interpret a pressure chart or care about wind speed or direction, but many people can and do. If you're not interested, don't watch and use (at absolute maximum) those three minutes for something else that interests you.
You'd probably be shouting about "dumbing down" if it was suggested that any other subject be reduced in depth of information, duration and quality.
Dunedin posted:
marksi posted:
Dunedin posted:
Bail posted:
To be honest all people want to know is if they should put the washing out, what should we ware. A sun and a rain symbol do this fine.
You've hit the nail on the head (apart from the embarassing spelling mistake!).
We're not weather-experts or interested in pressure charts, isobars or thermals.
For someone who has no interest in the weather you don't half like expressing an opinion on it. Don't judge everyone else by your own standards.
I think my comment speaks for the majority of the population
I don't think it does actually. Modesty's really not your thing, is it?
Should the BBC be catering for the lowest common denominator? I've been through all this before, but briefly, again - you may not be able to interpret a pressure chart or care about wind speed or direction, but many people can and do. If you're not interested, don't watch and use (at absolute maximum) those three minutes for something else that interests you.
You'd probably be shouting about "dumbing down" if it was suggested that any other subject be reduced in depth of information, duration and quality.
SP
Sput
Dunedin posted:
I think my comment speaks for the majority of the population- a meteorologist's dream doesn't necessarily make for a good weather forcast.
It is NOT a meteorologist's dream.
DU
Look there's really no point arguing- I quite shockingly believe that a weather forecast should do what it says- namely to predict the weather for the country. For all the glamour that is the isobars, I still maintain that most people are interested in the forecast of that data- e.g. the wind speed....and then they only want to hear about it if it's significant i.e. a gale.
If you really believe that people up and down the country are sitting down to weather forecasts saying "I wonder what those thermals of the west of Ireland are up to tonight"- I think you've lost touch with reality a tad.
I posted weeks ago the criteria that I believe should be used to determine the success or otherwise of the new graphics. I've quoted my post below- this is how I shall judge the efforts on screen on Monday:
marksi posted:
SNIP
I don't think it does actually. Modesty's really not your thing, is it?
Should the BBC be catering for the lowest common denominator? I've been through all this before, but briefly, again - you may not be able to interpret a pressure chart or care about wind speed or direction, but many people can and do. If you're not interested, don't watch and use (at absolute maximum) those three minutes for something else that interests you.
You'd probably be shouting about "dumbing down" if it was suggested that any other subject be reduced in depth of information, duration and quality.
I don't think it does actually. Modesty's really not your thing, is it?
Should the BBC be catering for the lowest common denominator? I've been through all this before, but briefly, again - you may not be able to interpret a pressure chart or care about wind speed or direction, but many people can and do. If you're not interested, don't watch and use (at absolute maximum) those three minutes for something else that interests you.
You'd probably be shouting about "dumbing down" if it was suggested that any other subject be reduced in depth of information, duration and quality.
Look there's really no point arguing- I quite shockingly believe that a weather forecast should do what it says- namely to predict the weather for the country. For all the glamour that is the isobars, I still maintain that most people are interested in the forecast of that data- e.g. the wind speed....and then they only want to hear about it if it's significant i.e. a gale.
If you really believe that people up and down the country are sitting down to weather forecasts saying "I wonder what those thermals of the west of Ireland are up to tonight"- I think you've lost touch with reality a tad.
I posted weeks ago the criteria that I believe should be used to determine the success or otherwise of the new graphics. I've quoted my post below- this is how I shall judge the efforts on screen on Monday:
Quote:
The basic test for the new graphics are two fold:
(1) Deliver the forcast with equal or better clarity.
(2) Deliver the same amount of information in equal or less time.
Failure on either of these accounts will indicate a step back for BBC Weather.
Time will tell.
(1) Deliver the forcast with equal or better clarity.
(2) Deliver the same amount of information in equal or less time.
Failure on either of these accounts will indicate a step back for BBC Weather.
Time will tell.
JJ
Juicy Joe
Founding member
I think many people will be relying on ITV Weather from now on! ITV Weather has animated symbols that do the job and tell you what is happening. Their updated package recently works well and looks great and ties in with the blue and yellow ITV logo. ITV Weather could benefit a lot from this unneccessary BBC change.
To summarize:-
BBC Weather - useless!
Sky News Weather - useless!
ITV Weather - Superb! Give me Sian Lloyd any day!
To summarize:-
BBC Weather - useless!
Sky News Weather - useless!
ITV Weather - Superb! Give me Sian Lloyd any day!
NH
Nick Harvey
Founding member
I'll give it a fair chance for a few days from Monday, but have to say I'm none to happy with the previews I've seen thus far.
Specifically, it'll be hard, I think, to get used to the absence of a symbol meaning it's going to be sunny; and to have England's green and pleasant land in brown will be rather odd.
Further comment by about Wednesday, I expect.
Specifically, it'll be hard, I think, to get used to the absence of a symbol meaning it's going to be sunny; and to have England's green and pleasant land in brown will be rather odd.
Further comment by about Wednesday, I expect.
LO
I wonder if ITV Weather will be making any changes this week to coincide with the BBC revamp?
At the time the new ITV weather graphics were introduced Martyn Davies said on Meridian Tonight and the ITV News Channel that they were just the start, and that we would be seeing 'amazing' flythrough graphics, zooms in on particular areas etc within a few weeks. To my knowledge none of this has materialised yet.
Juicy Joe posted:
I think many people will be relying on ITV Weather from now on! ITV Weather has animated symbols that do the job and tell you what is happening. Their updated package recently works well and looks great and ties in with the blue and yellow ITV logo. ITV Weather could benefit a lot from this unneccessary BBC change.
I wonder if ITV Weather will be making any changes this week to coincide with the BBC revamp?
At the time the new ITV weather graphics were introduced Martyn Davies said on Meridian Tonight and the ITV News Channel that they were just the start, and that we would be seeing 'amazing' flythrough graphics, zooms in on particular areas etc within a few weeks. To my knowledge none of this has materialised yet.
IS
There is a wind speed map. It consists of a load of arrows flying across the map in the direction that the wind will be travelling - the bigger the arrows the stonger the wind.
Pootle5 posted:
Where's the wind speed and direction? Having them at the end in the summary boxes simply isn't good enough as the wind direction and speeds are different across the British Isles.
There is a wind speed map. It consists of a load of arrows flying across the map in the direction that the wind will be travelling - the bigger the arrows the stonger the wind.
TW
I must say I disagree with you - even if the BBC's graphics are questionable (and I suggest they'll probably grow on people as they get used to them), the forecasts are full, detailed and presented by trained meteorologists.
ITVs forecasts are sketchy, lack detail and rarely stretch further than a day or so into the future.
The BBC would have to do far worse than this to tempt me to rely on ITV Weather as a main source of information.
Juicy Joe posted:
I think many people will be relying on ITV Weather from now on! ITV Weather has animated symbols that do the job and tell you what is happening. Their updated package recently works well and looks great and ties in with the blue and yellow ITV logo. ITV Weather could benefit a lot from this unneccessary BBC change.
To summarize:-
BBC Weather - useless!
Sky News Weather - useless!
ITV Weather - Superb! Give me Sian Lloyd any day!
To summarize:-
BBC Weather - useless!
Sky News Weather - useless!
ITV Weather - Superb! Give me Sian Lloyd any day!
I must say I disagree with you - even if the BBC's graphics are questionable (and I suggest they'll probably grow on people as they get used to them), the forecasts are full, detailed and presented by trained meteorologists.
ITVs forecasts are sketchy, lack detail and rarely stretch further than a day or so into the future.
The BBC would have to do far worse than this to tempt me to rely on ITV Weather as a main source of information.