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LL
London Lite Founding member London London
From what I recall, Discovery, ViacomCBS and UKTV's portfolio also have split ads for Ireland. I don't know how it works for Discovery+ if they detect an Irish IP and serve them Irish ads on the streams or if they get the UK version?
Last edited by London Lite on 18 November 2020 4:44pm
WW
WW Update
Sky News had an Ireland opt out twice a day for a few years in the mid to late 2000’s, but that stopped.


Here's a clip of one of those opt-outs:

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dvboy Central (West) Midlands Today
I would have thought Geneva would be predominately cable and IPTV, so most viewers wouldn't necessarily benefit from terrestrial overspill.


Switzerland switched off DTT last summer, so anyone with only DTT in Geneva or the surrounding area would only be able to get French channels.
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MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
dvboy posted:
I would have thought Geneva would be predominately cable and IPTV, so most viewers wouldn't necessarily benefit from terrestrial overspill.


Switzerland switched off DTT last summer, so anyone with only DTT in Geneva or the surrounding area would only be able to get French channels.

The Swiss turned off DTT because hardly anyone was still using it. Out 2.7 million TV households in the whole country, only 0.064 million were on DTT in the year before switchover, therefore I would hazard a guess most viewers would have been watching the correct Swiss ad version via cable.

Incidentally, in Geneva, Swiss DTT is returning: but solely as a way of creating an terrestrial overspill of the French language Swiss SRG SSR channels for the cable operators in neighbouring areas of France to use!
RD
Roger Darthwell London London
You mean neighbouring areas of France can get the RTS channels on cable? Is this also the same for all of France's neighbouring areas? Do the border areas of France get public and private TV channels on their cable? That's cool!
CH
chinamug UTV Newsline
Here's a link of interest, Detailing How Channel 4 and it's various channels deal with the Republic of Ireland Market.
http://www.medialive.ie/index.php?option=com_sobipro&pid=129&sid=1336:channel-4&Itemid=103
MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
You mean neighbouring areas of France can get the RTS channels on cable? Is this also the same for all of France's neighbouring areas? Do the border areas of France get public and private TV channels on their cable? That's cool!

When Switzerland turned off their terrestrial TV signals, TV platforms located in France, Germany and Austria lost the legal right to relay the Swiss PSB channels on their network, as there was no overspill.

Switzerland's version of Ofcom has allowed private operators to set up private free-to-air multiplexes in the country which have (deliberate) overspill across the border to the cable head stations.

Aside from Geneva, there's a new transmitter site at Hoher Kasten, on the NW edge of the Alps. How convenient that the site is line of sight from western Austria, overlooks Liechtenstein and has a beam reaching as far as Konstanz (Constance) in Germany...
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WW
WW Update
On the subject of transnational opt-outs, here's a (low quality) clip of a news opt-out on the Austrian version of Germany's Sat1 from back in 2010:

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MI
mici0123 World News
Wich they eventually just replaced with with the news from Austria-only sister channel Puls4.



They do the same on ProSieben as well now.
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RD
Roger Darthwell London London
I have a question about these transnational advertising feeds, since all the examples shown are of private TV channels, this makes me wonder if public broadcasters like France Télévisions' channels have Swiss advertising feeds, and the channels of ARD and ZDF have Swiss and Austrian advertising feeds too
MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
I have a question about these transnational advertising feeds, since all the examples shown are of private TV channels, this makes me wonder if public broadcasters like France Télévisions' channels have Swiss advertising feeds, and the channels of ARD and ZDF have Swiss and Austrian advertising feeds too


Public service broadcasters are by law constrained to providing a core service to their home country, although some may be available outside their country of origin, depending on historic arrangements, overspill and broadcast rights clearance.

Where public service broadcasters are given a specific remit by national authorities to operate outside of their country, this is often done via an international or commercial division, like the BBC World Service, DW, France 24, TVE Internacional, BVN and RTPi.


Edit: there's one: Channel 4 of course ...as a UK PSB operating an Irish ad window. But it doesn't receive any public funding through tax, household levies or licence fees, so it doesn't have the issues holding it back that other PSBs would.
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LL
London Lite Founding member London London
I have a question about these transnational advertising feeds, since all the examples shown are of private TV channels, this makes me wonder if public broadcasters like France Télévisions' channels have Swiss advertising feeds, and the channels of ARD and ZDF have Swiss and Austrian advertising feeds too


I can answer for France Télévisions and that's a big no.
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