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all_night395 posts since 2 Apr 2016
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)
it sounds like it's up to Jeff what he wants to do next.

Maybe so, but it's not like he'll have the choice of positions at CBS, is it? Realistically it sounds more like he's been backed into a corner.


Well it's unusual that in the statement and the discussion, it's not clear what Jeff is going to do, so he must have had some options to way up. Whatever he does next is a demotion although Brian Williams seems to be enjoying himself on MSNBC and Diane Sawyer is still with the ABC News family doing her specials, so it's never the end.
NYTV (previously asnycBBC) 624 posts since 9 Apr 2009
BBC World
Friday, May 6th marked the conclusion of Jeff Glor's tenure as presenter of the CBS Evening News. He wished his successor good luck and thanks the EN staff with a roll of the credits.


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Brekkie31,384 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
Assume full credits rarely, if ever, get used on the bulletin - or indeed virtually any other news bulletin anywhere in the world. Here it's only really C4 News and Newsnight that get anything close to full credits - indeed BBC News has nothing at all. It's odd really it's one of the most important areas of broadcasting get no credits at all, so the editor of the BBC News at Ten is never credited on screen, but a runner for a run of the mill entertainment show probably is.

Back to CBS and still think ditching Scott Pelley was a mistake - even if they were third the programmes seemed to develop so much under him and had a real point of difference when it moved to the Morning News set. From what I've seen of Jeff Glor he just didn't fit that format as well - indeed that goodbye was pretty painful to watch, and kind of ironic saying his successor didn't need good luck because of the team behind her. Well, they didn't help him did they?
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Woodpecker429 posts since 19 Jan 2018
Central (West) Midlands Today
In the video posted above they also seem to make out that Norah O’Donnell is the first woman to anchor the CBS Evening News solely. Didn’t Katie Couric do that or were they referencing the managing editor/lead political anchor aspect of her role?

I do feel quite sorry for Glor, seemed to be quite a public appeal for him to remain at the network and certainly comes across as this was all done behind his back.

It's very strange, CBS has a habit of reinventing the wheel, and constantly changing and shifting their focus. The programme is 3rd because it's never recovered from the Killian documents scandal nor has it ever settled - and when it does (under Couric and Co, maybe not as successfully, and certainly with Scott Pelley) they change and change everything.
Maybe they need to forget Walter Cronkite and his day and focus on the present day, this obsession with the past seems to be their biggest issue (when do they NOT mention Cronkite in an anchor shuffle, or in a history item?).

You compare it to the UK, maybe they need to stop pumping so much of their brand into the personalities that front it and make the programmes stand in their own right.


I have to say, I've never agreed with how TV news in the US focuses so intensely on the personalities fronting it, as opposed to the actual news itself. I suppose, as you touch upon, it comes from the Walter Cronkite effect. Would I be right in thinking that Cronkite is one of very few newscasters (if not the only one) to be (at least somewhat) well-known outside of their home country?

I suppose a lot of this is an extension of the seemingly very bombastic, very sensational, very tabloidy nature of TV news in America, which, to me, often comes across as much more concerned with its own image than actually reporting the news. Surely, as Ted Turner put it when launching CNN, the news is the star?

Incidentally, whilst this may be going off topic from CBS somewhat, I read this (excellent, IMO) Vanity Fair article not long ago about the Brian Williams scandal that engulfed NBC News back in 2015, as well as the whole Ann Curry saga - well worth a read if you haven't done so already. It paints a picture of NBC as a whole being a very competitive, stressful environment; in particular, Williams is said in the article to be a lightweight and an egomaniac, who was allegedly angling for his own late-night talk show.

Deborah Turness, meanwhile, was reportedly considered to have been very much out of her depth whilst in charge of NBC News: some interesting tidbits are her hiring of a fairly small-time ESPN producer, Jamie Horowitz, to fix the Today show: his grand plan for the show was to sack all of the on-air team, except for Hoda Kotb and possibly Al Roker (even Matt Lauer wasn't safe); her ideas to 'improve' Meet the Press, which included introducing a live audience and celebrity guests, and her inexperience with the way presenter talent works in America, where the heavyweights all have the best agents and publicists and are earning mega, mega-bucks - contrast this to here, where, at ITV News under Turness, reportedly only one news anchor was on the equivalent of a million dollars a year (almost certainly Sir Trev, I'd have thought).

Actually, I think I've almost summarised the article, there Embarassed - still, as I said, it's well worth a read. I mention all this because I think it gives a fascinating insight into how cut-throat the competition is between - and within - the big networks in the States, and, going back to CBS, perhaps why all this business with Jeff Glor has gone on.
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Woodpecker429 posts since 19 Jan 2018
Central (West) Midlands Today
Re: Deborah Turness - quite obvious how different managing NBC News would be to managing ITV News, but if that's an issue the fault is surely with whoever hired her.


Exactly, and that's made clear in the article. I remember thinking it was a curious choice when her appointment was announced. To me it seems like hiring the head of, say, Morrisons to run all of Wal-Mart.
WW Update4,691 posts since 6 Feb 2007

I have to say, I've never agreed with how TV news in the US focuses so intensely on the personalities fronting it, as opposed to the actual news itself. I suppose, as you touch upon, it comes from the Walter Cronkite effect.


For an insightful look about how the news perosnalities became so important in the U.S., I would highly recommend Barbara Matusow's 1983 book The Evening Stars: The Making of the Network News Anchor, widely available used from sites such as Amazon and Abebooks. It's also an interesting history of the entire TV news business up to that point.
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NYTV (previously asnycBBC) 624 posts since 9 Apr 2009
BBC World
On Thursday, May 16th, Norah O'Donnell co-presented her last CBS This Morning and received a send-off from the show



And CBS posted a preview on their Twitter page of the new CBS This Morning, taking effect Monday, May 20th.


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Charles570 posts since 11 Nov 2009
BBC World
Can't help but think of middle American rolling their eyes at a montage of a bunch of Washington's power brokers pontificating a news anchor.

With that said, picking Norah for the Evening News would have been the right decision two years ago. It only feels awkward to push Glor out now, and while I didn't think he was great, he should have been given more time. At least the underrated Anthony Mason is getting a higher profile slot. Much in the same vein, he should have been picked for CTM over John Dickerson two years ago as well.
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mannewskev507 posts since 2 Sep 2011

I have to say, I've never agreed with how TV news in the US focuses so intensely on the personalities fronting it, as opposed to the actual news itself. I suppose, as you touch upon, it comes from the Walter Cronkite effect.


For an insightful look about how the news perosnalities became so important in the U.S., I would highly recommend Barbara Matusow's 1983 book The Evening Stars: The Making of the Network News Anchor, widely available used from sites such as Amazon and Abebooks. It's also an interesting history of the entire TV news business up to that point.


Great book. I'm re-reading that at the moment.