The Newsroom

Victoria Derbyshire (the programme) - now with added Reith

Split from BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards (March 2019)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
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Parker
Inspector Sands posted:
Parker posted:
Shows like Click, Travel shows should be on other channels, but because of politics you cant force your programmes on other channels budgets.

I think they already are, they're made by/for BBC World News.

There's nothing wrong with having them on the news channel, they fill the overnight hours and quieter weekends cheaply

They still need to be paid for from the NC transmission budget.
NT
Night Thoughts
all new Phil posted:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The Victoria Derbyshire Show targets its audience brilliantly and is a good show. Should it be on the News Channel? Who knows. Maybe the problem isn’t that the show is out of place on there, maybe it’s that the News Channel neglects such a huge proportion of the audience in the rest of its output. Health stories, debates about quality of social housing - this is the definition of news to so many people more than Brexit, Trump, etc.


Spot on.

I watched a bit of RTÉ News Now the day the Irish general election was called, and one of the talking heads raised rents as an issue - can you imagine this even featuring on most British TV news? Yet this was the kind of stuff on the Derbyshire show.

By being on the News Channel, it was also pumped into every newsroom in the country - boosting its impact way beyond those who saw it at home.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Of course if it’s such a great show that is worth saving they could take the plunge and move it to BBC One, paid for from the BBC One daytime budget, and not air it on the News Channel. But of course they won’t as it doesn’t rate.
KK
KolonelKlink
Andrew posted:
Of course if it’s such a great show that is worth saving they could take the plunge and move it to BBC One, paid for from the BBC One daytime budget, and not air it on the News Channel. But of course they won’t as it doesn’t rate.


To put this in recent context, yesterday’s VD on BBC Two barely rated above a repeat of Undercover Boss USA on C4 - and had a smaller reach on the Channel compared with the programmes before *and* after it.

JCB posted:
🙄It's been interesting to see how completely differently the real world views 'Victoria Derbyshire' to TVForum's frothing at the mouth perception of it being "women talking about periods and other such fluff that isn't REAL news 😬😬😬"


If this was an allusion to a comment I made in another thread about it being a tough ask to pull in casual viewers when you’re covering issues like vaginal mesh implants on such a regular basis, fine - but I stand by it. No-one is suggesting these aren’t important stories, but they simply aren’t bringing in the viewers. There’s a simple solution - as these topics drive traffic to the BBC News website, why not make that their home and increase their prominence in the process?

It’s all very well people arguing that the BBC is effectively reducing the visibility of these issues by taking VD off the telly - but are they really that visible now when no-one’s watching?
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DO
dosxuk
There seems to me to be two main groups of people complaining about the loss of the programme (the backlash in BM11 terms) :-
Mejia people, mourning the loss of an outlet for their lovely films;
and Public figures, mourning the loss of a programme that championed their causes.

Neither of which group is in the target audience for the programme, or the news channel daytime.
LL
London Lite Founding member
dosxuk posted:
There seems to me to be two main groups of people complaining about the loss of the programme (the backlash in BM11 terms) :-
Mejia people, mourning the loss of an outlet for their lovely films;
and Public figures, mourning the loss of a programme that championed their causes.

Neither of which group is in the target audience for the programme, or the news channel daytime.


I noticed some left leaning Labour members on Twitter also complaining about the show being axed as well. Question is, did they ever watch?
Parker, Jeffmister and watchingtv gave kudos
JO
Jonwo
London Lite posted:
dosxuk posted:
There seems to me to be two main groups of people complaining about the loss of the programme (the backlash in BM11 terms) :-
Mejia people, mourning the loss of an outlet for their lovely films;
and Public figures, mourning the loss of a programme that championed their causes.

Neither of which group is in the target audience for the programme, or the news channel daytime.


I noticed some left leaning Labour members on Twitter also complaining about the show being axed as well. Question is, did they ever watch?


I suspect most politicians see it as a way of criticising the BBC for axing a news/current affairs programme.
JK
JKDerry
I have a sense the BBC will try to sweeten this axing by giving Victoria something else. I would like to see the average ratings for the show and how it stood up against ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5.
NG
noggin Founding member
JKDerry posted:
I have a sense the BBC will try to sweeten this axing by giving Victoria something else. I would like to see the average ratings for the show and how it stood up against ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5.


Monday 20th Jan

BBC One Homes Under The Hammer 1.0m
BBC Two Victoria Derbyshire 200k
ITV This Morning 1.0m
C4 Frasier 200k / Undercover Boss 100k
C5 Jeremy Vine 200k

Derbyshire seems to be around 100-200k so far this month.

Newsroom Live gets around the same ratings in the following hour against similar ratings on the other main channels.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I suspect the budget for Vine is considerably less than VD and still gets the same share.
GI
ginnyfan
Can't she do News at 10 or something? She's a big name, makes more sense to use her than some random people that have been popping up recently.
TC
TCOTV
In a day this petition has got over 7,400 to save the show. https://www.change.org/p/bbc-stop-the-victoria-derbyshire-show-being-axed

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