It depends if you believe it, I think a lot of people are shy Trump voters, so I won't write him off just yet. Im very unsure of it, I don't think he will win, but then I don't see Clinton winning either.
If those maps were right, it would be a disaster for the R's.
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That the same guy would under est Trump during the primary, got the UK election wrong, and Im sure was not right about Brexit. His website only works on the normal, tested waters etc This is not a normal year and anything and everything has been happening and alot of shock could still happen.
To write someone off during such a strange year would be very foolish and we would ALL be to blame if he walks in because everyone thought " oh him nay chance now" That is even more dangerous. No one is looking at policy..
As said above "shy Trump" plus people which have never voted before, remember turnout at the last US election was major at 60%...
How are we to blame, (unless you are American and have the vote)?
I am glad I have no part in American politics, especially this election. It's just horrible.
I think you may be right, I think he could win, or he will lose very badly, one or the other.
I have been looking on wiki at all the US elections, it's amazing how close some of them are, only a few 100k votes, and the winner might not win, like 2000.
How are we to blame, (unless you are American and have the vote)?
I am glad I have no part in American politics, especially this election. It's just horrible.
I think you may be right, I think he could win, or he will lose very badly, one or the other.
What I mean is, here on the forum are not to blame but in the general since its extremely foolish to under est who might go out to vote and in that general since "we" never took this for what it should be and the media are not helping in this matter.
Alas there only have them selves to blame, well tough cheese. The media over there have been doing there own thing and putting its own spin on stuff which has made alot of people not happy with the news channels. Its been noted Fox is republican all the way. MSBC? are try democrats. IF you want people not to believe you dont have an agenda, you need to drop the agenda.
Yet the news outlets that have been responsible for the two most important stories in Trumps downfall are newspapers, not TV news channels. What's more they didn't do it out of some agenda, they did it because people trusted them - the two most respected and professional papers in the world - enough to send them leaked material.
The Trump supporters who are abusing the press in the story in poster above are doing so because they think the media are being unfair to Trump because he has been telling them they are.
The fact that he is on record saying what he's said and that the other stories are generally well sourced and checked journalisticly, is of no consequence to them. They are in the echo chamber and getting more and more stirred up and defensive
It depends if you believe it, I think a lot of people are shy Trump voters, so I won't write him off just yet. Im very unsure of it, I don't think he will win, but then I don't see Clinton winning either.
If those maps were right, it would be a disaster for the R's.
There are a number of forecasts like that and they're all very similar - Trump in the teens or even single figures.
It's worth remembering that the vote itself doesn't directly elect the president, it's state by state who then influence the electoral college. It's not as simple as just a poll, those projections take everything into account.
That sort of result would be disastrous for the republicans and even they are resigned to the fact it's looking that way. The party has stopped funding his campaign and it is withdrawing the campaign in some key states like Virginia.
To write someone off during such a year would be very foolish and we would ALL be to blame if he walks in because everyone thought " oh him nay chance now" That is even more dangerous. No one is looking at policy..
That's because one of the candidates is going rogue and that's the bigger story. Policy is all very well if the candidate is suitable to lead in the first place.
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As said above "shy Trump" plus people which have never voted before, remember turnout at the last US election was major at 60%...
I think you're in as much denial as Trump.
Surely there could be as many 'shy Trump' voters as there could be 'shy Hillary' ones? She is as unpopular in some parts of the country as trump is in others
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As My granny always said never talk politics it will just lead to trouble, and we really should be talking about the TV/media aspect of this campaign not were or who we would like to vote for etc. I make the point again, there is a chance this could all backfire, here is a person who says Im anti establishment and there just speaking rubbish, It might just work for him.
All I;m seeing is Im a Trump support and hillary going to win etc and anyone who warns agaist the fact of complacence is being silly or a trump person,
Media its not great when your not having a proper look at either side, you shouldn't get a free ride in just because your the lesser of two evils.
