Unaired footage and the Trump Tapes

Well yes, that's the argument Trumps team have been making on the various TV news shows this last week... just before they bring up something Bill Clinton did 20 years ago

I have been following it closely, but as you say Hillary is a politician and she been up to nothing over the course of the campaign, she been polarisation people but nothing to outset people. She just need to sit there and smile. Thats not to say he as white as daz door step challenge, she not. its the skeleton in her cupboard which makes her just as bad.

To get this thread in relation to TV, all the TV outlets in the US, are all backing Hillary even Fox which is rather surprising but hey tv neutrality is not a thing over there. Again WHY are the media caring about trump now? its been highlighted the polls are all saying he will lose, why give him more airtime? Media have made buckets of cash because of trump, yet there all hate him and dont want him, partly because he spent very little in TV ads.

Well yes, but 'some people still don't like Hillary' isn't a news story. When one of the candidates does or says something significant, that is a story.

Turns out Hillary will win by just not doing much, she doesn't need to when her opponent digs his hole deeper every day


No no no. Read my last post, shes not as bad - until you can come up with a list of things as long as Keith Olberman's then you can't say that.

Think of everything Trump has said about Mexicans, Muslims, women, NATO, the tax fraud, the charity fraud, the university fraud, the breaking of embargoes. Seriously, he makes Hillary look like the Dalai Lama


Well, that last point is true but I don't think it's a factor.

As you say though, the TV news channels have made a fortune from Trump running, CNN especially featured him a lot during the primaries too much in fact, but it drew in the viewers.

Then a number of things happened. Firstly he banned certain outlets from getting accreditation to his rallies. Secondly his plans for the libel laws would have a massive effect on free speech and the news media. Thirdly he announced a press conference to make an announcement about changing his mind on 'birtherism'. This took place at his new hotel in DC, the stations took it live but it soon became obvious it was just a long advert for his hotel. Plus the tour round the hotel was pooled and against pool rules Trumps team refused to let a producer go with the camera crew. Not only did no-one broadcast the tour but the members of the pool - the major broadcasters - agreed to erase the tapes.

It was those events and the realisation that someone so potentially dangerous could actually be elected that led the news media to realise that they actually needed to start doing their job and do some actual journalism

Some polls still have Trump tied with Hilary. It's a long time until November, anything could happen.

One poll.

After Brexit, anything can happen. I don't think the polls mean much anymore, at least in the UK.

Not just Brexit, the General election polls where crap and dont forget.... that nate block was the guy behide panorama prediction and he got it badly wrong....

only a fool would believe its over, hence the reason the tape was leaked.

Personally, I believe the "deserters" of Trump always planned to "desert", regardless of the tape. Now we have Obama coming out, and attacking Trump, and also the UN, I think its going to play right into his hands. They are making the same mistake they did with Brexit. Is it enough to get him in, I am not sure about that. Regardless of your political views, to see Trump win, would be fascinating, how will people react etc.

Incidentally, Adam Curtis has a new documentary coming out on Sunday, about the whole "thing" that's going on in the west at the moment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/02d9ed3c-d71b-4232-ae17-67da423b5df5

No it wouldn't be fascinating. It would be a nightmare.

At least with Hillary Clinton winning, we know what's coming from Fox News and their ilk over the next 8 years... exactly the same as we've had from them over the last 8 years.

I don't think Hilary would win another term.

But if Trump won, CNN would go into meltdown (as Fox did when Obama won ). Further fascinating viewing.

Either way it's good to get a change, the world needs it.

The relationship between CNN and Trump is an interesting one. The head of CNN, Jeff Zucker is a close friend of Trumps and has hired someone who is still being paid from the Trump campaign. Though they're not as friendly to Trump as they once were:
http://www.inquisitr.com/3495978/donald-trump-versus-jeff-zucker-of-cnn/

I don't see any Republican coming out of the shadows in the next few years to successfully challenge Clinton. I foresee a sad downward spiral for Republicanism, ala the Whigs back in the 19th century. We will have to see if another party or movement can emerge to challenge the Democrats in the near future, because the way I see it, Republicanism and the GOP is on life support, and the electorate could be about ready to pull the plug.

Even if Trump won, CNN wouldn't go into meltdown. The myth of a liberal media or that CNN is the Clinton News Network is just that, a myth. The media in the US is owned by corporations and corporations by their very nature lean to the right side of the political centre, towards preserving the status quo. Trump wouldn't preserve the status quo, so he is an extremist, like most in the Republican Party right now are.

The media knows that Trump will clamp down on them if he is elected, and they will become like most Russian media is to Vladimir Putin. When you know where the candidates lie in terms of how they view the media, Trump was always likely to get a tough ride. That doesn't mean Clinton will be given an easy one, from either side. It's an interesting election, but not for the reasons most people think.