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Tyne Tees North East Tonight On Border TV

(January 2005)

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SP
Steve in Pudsey
Andrew posted:
It does seem a bit poor that there's been nothing from Border News all weekend. Surely what they could have done was get out and about filming then decamp to Newcastle and do the show from there. Tyne Tees could have come from their teeside studios.

Are Border still getting adverts for their own region or is it 100% Tyne Tees being shown?


well perhaps... Caldbeck's feed is routed via Border in Carlisle, so without power at Border I think it's rebroadcasting Tyne Tees off-air from Bilsdale.
GA
Gareth Founding member
I know this thread is mainly about Border but are BBC NE & Cumbria doing much with Look North? Any lives to Carlisle in the weekend bulletins, surely this is one of few occasions where Look North can truely knock Lookaround out of the window as their edit suites are fully functional in Newcastle?

Having heard about Look North tho, they're probably too worried about Tyne Tees beating them in the ratings to care about Cumbria!

Gareth
IS
Inspector Sands
Steven O posted:
Border did have a crew out filming the floods on Saturday. I'd imagine that if their studios are still out of action by tomorrow then it will be broadcast as part of NET. However, supplies to Carlisle are now being restored, and with NTL sending a generator out to Caldbeck, chances are that Border could be back on air tomorrow.


Apparently the generator is there and all services except DTT have been back on for ages (albeit not with any local ITV1 news)
NG
noggin Founding member
Andrew posted:
It does seem a bit poor that there's been nothing from Border News all weekend. Surely what they could have done was get out and about filming then decamp to Newcastle and do the show from there. Tyne Tees could have come from their teeside studios.

Are Border still getting adverts for their own region or is it 100% Tyne Tees being shown?


You are assuming they can still route signals to the Border transmitters though.

It is far more likely that the Border transmitters are rebroadcasing an off-air feed of a Tyne Tees transmitter - so they have no option but to show what Tyne Tees is showing, with no option of splitting to a different studio for regional news as they can't feed directly to the transmitters at the moment AIUI.
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
Gareth posted:
are BBC NE & Cumbria doing much with Look North?

The whole of the 18:30 programme on Monday will be presented live from Carlisle.
IS
Inspector Sands
noggin posted:

You are assuming they can still route signals to the Border transmitters though.

It is far more likely that the Border transmitters are rebroadcasing an off-air feed of a Tyne Tees transmitter - so they have no option but to show what Tyne Tees is showing, with no option of splitting to a different studio for regional news as they can't feed directly to the transmitters at the moment AIUI.


According to someone from NTL who posted somewhere else earlier, they have re-routed the feeds from Leeds to the transmitters. However there isn't a great deal of diffrence between diffrent regions (as usual) as Border isn't in a position to supply any news.

Somone earlier said that they did put out Border weather yesterday so this would seem to back up the above
SP
Steve in Pudsey
What surprises me is that the DSat feed is routed via Carlisle, I can't see any benefit in doing that unless it's to provide for Border being able to become self suficient again should there be a regulator with some teeth in future which understands what regional means... or a major problem in Leeds and they end up having to do their own thing.

either that or it was never rerouted when Border pres was moved to Leeds.
TV
tvmercia Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
either that or it was never rerouted when Border pres was moved to Leeds.
border wasn't on sky before pres moved to leeds was it?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
not sure...
SI
simpfeld
Steven O posted:

How can Border do anything if Carlisle is without power and the city cut off? You try broadcasting during a power cut.....


All ITV stations were forced to have backup generators by the IBA (hell even local radio stations were forced to). Has this now fallen by the wayside? Even a generator that would allow them to send the network output to the transmitter you'd have thought wouldn't be a large generator.

And what's going on with DTT. Did DTT never go off (in terms of transmitting a signal from Caldbeck) but had a frozen image or was it completely off? If it went off, I thought all DTT sites were also had a backup generator given the lower power requirements of DTT over analogue. I suppose if it never went off but was frozen the loss of border TV would have knocked it out.
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TELEVISION
Lookaround being anchored live from Carlisle city centre with Fiona Armstrong and Tim Backshall.
PE
Pete Founding member
With jackets with the old Border logo on them. How fab.

Border must be in shock, they're having to actually report on real news for once.

Bit of a messy end though.

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