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US TV Choppers Crash Covering Car Chase

Four killed in accident (July 2007)

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seamus
The west is closer to the north in general culture usually. But seriously, C2tv, it's the stations fault. Sure the guy in the chase was stupid, but did he make them follow him with helicopters? I think not.

Copters only make sense with something like this:


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PH
phoenixrises
Luke posted:
channel2tv posted:
]As a Journalist, I have to say, right now, that although I shan't be doing this, I took a side on this story, and I took the side of the reporters and the station, and against the criminal. True, had this not happen, this would be a story that will pass by next morning's news, but it isn't now, is it?.


surely the only 'sides' in this situation were the truck driver and the police? the helicopter was there to follow the entire chase - not catch the thief. it just looks like a tragic accident (and I'm not sure what you being a journalism student has to do with it either?).


What I am trying to say is that a journalist, IMO, should not take sides in a story, but I did in this instance, and that it may be wrong.
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Katnap
What's the situation with American networks covering car chases at the moment? I thought that there was some hoo-har a little while back that suggested the amount of live-coverage car chases should be scaled down, or at least the way those stories were reported should be changed? IIRC, the concerns were something along the lines of that such media coverage was actually glamourising the car jacking/police chase aspect of car crime and encouraging people to go and grab their few hours of notoriety.
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phoenixrises
This argument has gone on way too long. I will agree to disagree, since I can't change your thoughts on this subjects, and likewise for you all as well.
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Katnap
channel2tv posted:
Katnap posted:
What's the situation with American networks covering car chases at the moment? I thought that there was some hoo-har a little while back that suggested the amount of live-coverage car chases should be scaled down, or at least the way those stories were reported should be changed? IIRC, the concerns were something along the lines of that such media coverage was actually glamourising the car jacking/police chase aspect of car crime and encouraging people to go and grab their few hours of notoriety.


This argument has gone on way too long. I will agree to disagree, since I can't change your thoughts on this subjects, and likewise for you all as well.


Excuse me. I wasn't actually voicing an opinion there.
PH
phoenixrises
Katnap posted:
channel2tv posted:
Katnap posted:
What's the situation with American networks covering car chases at the moment? I thought that there was some hoo-har a little while back that suggested the amount of live-coverage car chases should be scaled down, or at least the way those stories were reported should be changed? IIRC, the concerns were something along the lines of that such media coverage was actually glamourising the car jacking/police chase aspect of car crime and encouraging people to go and grab their few hours of notoriety.


This argument has gone on way too long. I will agree to disagree, since I can't change your thoughts on this subjects, and likewise for you all as well.


Excuse me. I wasn't actually voicing an opinion there.


Wrong quote, sorry! (too lazy to change it now. Just let it be)
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STV Today
channel2tv posted:
Katnap posted:
channel2tv posted:
Katnap posted:
What's the situation with American networks covering car chases at the moment? I thought that there was some hoo-har a little while back that suggested the amount of live-coverage car chases should be scaled down, or at least the way those stories were reported should be changed? IIRC, the concerns were something along the lines of that such media coverage was actually glamourising the car jacking/police chase aspect of car crime and encouraging people to go and grab their few hours of notoriety.


This argument has gone on way too long. I will agree to disagree, since I can't change your thoughts on this subjects, and likewise for you all as well.


Excuse me. I wasn't actually voicing an opinion there.


Wrong quote, sorry! (too lazy to change it now. Just let it be)


Well, as an aspiring journalist I hope you get out of the habit of being 'lazy' and ensure your quotes are correct...I aint sure of the situation in the United States of America...but over here in the UK news editors fire journos who misquote people, as the legal implications are a nightmare and very costly!!
PH
phoenixrises
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
channel2tv posted:
Katnap posted:
channel2tv posted:
Katnap posted:
What's the situation with American networks covering car chases at the moment? I thought that there was some hoo-har a little while back that suggested the amount of live-coverage car chases should be scaled down, or at least the way those stories were reported should be changed? IIRC, the concerns were something along the lines of that such media coverage was actually glamourising the car jacking/police chase aspect of car crime and encouraging people to go and grab their few hours of notoriety.


This argument has gone on way too long. I will agree to disagree, since I can't change your thoughts on this subjects, and likewise for you all as well.


Excuse me. I wasn't actually voicing an opinion there.


Wrong quote, sorry! (too lazy to change it now. Just let it be)


Well, as an aspiring journalist I hope you get out of the habit of being 'lazy' and ensure your quotes are correct...I aint sure of the situation in the United States of America...but over here in the UK news editors fire journos who misquote people, as the legal implications are a nightmare and very costly!!


You are right. I apoogise.
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gilsta
It's an interesting cultural clash, in the UK an enquiry would be ordered to look into how the helicopters crashed, whether pilots were under pressure from the news channels to get the footage "at all costs" (as sickening as that phrase is now), if there would be any way to improve pilot communication, the necessity for five tv helicopters to cover two cars racing round a city etc. The central feed suggestion is a good one but unlikely in the exclusive obsessed news world.

In the US, the man driving on the car on the ground, who did not dispatch the helicopters, is blamed. I hate to suggest it but the way the media are immediately pushing this angle could be an attempt to cover their own mistakes.
PH
phoenixrises
gilsta posted:
It's an interesting cultural clash, in the UK an enquiry would be ordered to look into how the helicopters crashed, whether pilots were under pressure from the news channels to get the footage "at all costs" (as sickening as that phrase is now), if there would be any way to improve pilot communication, the necessity for five tv helicopters to cover two cars racing round a city etc. The central feed suggestion is a good one but unlikely in the exclusive obsessed news world.

In the US, the man driving on the car on the ground, who did not dispatch the helicopters, is blamed. I hate to suggest it but the way the media are immediately pushing this angle could be an attempt to cover their own mistakes.


Watch it, pal. The man, under legal definition, from what I understand, caused this. The law says so, not the media.
GI
gilsta
channel2tv posted:
gilsta posted:
It's an interesting cultural clash, in the UK an enquiry would be ordered to look into how the helicopters crashed, whether pilots were under pressure from the news channels to get the footage "at all costs" (as sickening as that phrase is now), if there would be any way to improve pilot communication, the necessity for five tv helicopters to cover two cars racing round a city etc. The central feed suggestion is a good one but unlikely in the exclusive obsessed news world.

In the US, the man driving on the car on the ground, who did not dispatch the helicopters, is blamed. I hate to suggest it but the way the media are immediately pushing this angle could be an attempt to cover their own mistakes.


Watch it, pal. The man, under legal definition, from what I understand, caused this. The law says so, not the media.


May I suggest, pal, you first wait for the trial, second don't take everything from the media at face value and third not take everything so personally.
PH
phoenixrises
gilsta posted:
channel2tv posted:
gilsta posted:
It's an interesting cultural clash, in the UK an enquiry would be ordered to look into how the helicopters crashed, whether pilots were under pressure from the news channels to get the footage "at all costs" (as sickening as that phrase is now), if there would be any way to improve pilot communication, the necessity for five tv helicopters to cover two cars racing round a city etc. The central feed suggestion is a good one but unlikely in the exclusive obsessed news world.

In the US, the man driving on the car on the ground, who did not dispatch the helicopters, is blamed. I hate to suggest it but the way the media are immediately pushing this angle could be an attempt to cover their own mistakes.


Watch it, pal. The man, under legal definition, from what I understand, caused this. The law says so, not the media.


May I suggest, pal, you first wait for the trial, second don't take everything from the media at face value and third not take everything so personally.


Let me spell out the following:

1. I am not saying the man IS guilty, all I am saying is that this man, under the definitions of legal code that is the Common Law, is MOST LIKELY guilty.

2. I read into an issue and decide for myself, so don't describe me as a gullible sheep, please.

3. I work in the Phoenix media in some ways, so yes, I am taking things a bit personally, as you can understand.

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